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wedgev8
 


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2 Post lift , Body removal , small garage

In near future I will install a 2 post lift in my garage. Ist is a lift special vor garages with less height.
I have 2.80 meters height in ja garage. When my Disco is on the bump stops it is about 1.80 high.
So ist should be possible to lift the body 90 to 100 cm oder the chassis.
Question is: is this enough for rolling the chassis from under the body???
  
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Let the air out of the tyres!

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Hopefully someone who knows the answer will come along soon.
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Re: 2 Post lift , Body removal , small garage

wedgev8 wrote:

Question is: is this enough for rolling the chassis from under the body???


That's going to be tight!
You might just get away with it, amusing as it may sound dropping the tyre pressures might actually get you over the line Shocked

If I remember correctly I think you need 120 cm, but I am not certain as I have a high roof workshop and it has not been an issue before. If you do a search on the forum there will almost certainly be info that will confirm or otherwise.
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wedgev8
 


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Letting out the air from tyres could be a good idea. This brought up another idea. I think I could use 4 old 17" wheels without tyres. Than it should be easyer to move and roll the chassis on the floor. This should give a further 10cm.
  
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Smaller wheels will definitely help, perhaps a set of dollies might be worth considering too. Total deflation of the air bags will get you another few cm.
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wedgev8
 


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Top idea!!! Car dollies should also help when aligning the body to chassis for mounting the body again.
  
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motorworks
 


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Here are a couple of pics that might help.


Click image to enlarge


The highest part of chassis is top of the engine, just above the radiator. Lowest part of body is the front cross member. So 100 cm clearance is enough, in theory, but other considerations may hinder the operation.

Smaller wheels and deflated tyres will lower the chassis, but it will already be close to floor level when air pipes are disconnected.

Physically moving the chassis (1400kg) would be difficult with flat tyres,
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wedgev8
 


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Hhmmm.,..., The way I have to lift is only the difference between the highest engine point and the height of the front crossmember. This seems to be about 40cm only. Importamt is to start the body lifting from a very low point.
But first I have to measure how far I have to lift for getting out the wheels from the wheel arches. The difference between the upper edge of the wheels and the lowest edge of the body sills. Otherwise I cannot roll out the chassis under the body.
Here is a link for the planned 2 post lift.:
https://twinbusch.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=246
Further I need to buy 4 car dollies 680kg capacity each from eBay or so.
Then I can fix the dollies at the chassis......

However, I have to think and measure, think and measure, think and.....
And then I will post the outcome here.
  
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You will initially be lifting the vehicle on the chassis in order to disassemble everything required. When you have done this you can then lower it enough to remove the wheels and then place the dollies where you need them. (you may have to use timber on the dollies)

Remember, you must leave enough room to drop the legs a bit further so you can reposition them under the sills!

When you start lifting off the body you can jack the chassis and adjust the dollies where necessary.

If you have not lifted one of these before make certain you position it correctly balanced on the lift!!
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motorworks
 


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I checked my lift posts, they are 280 cm high. in the picture I have positioned body on the lift so that roof top is just below the post tops.



There is easily room to move the chassis out and back. Lowest point under chassis is 17cm with 18" wheels. I use 680kg skates from SGS, ok with body off but hard work to move the full weight (2500kg)

On the subject of car dollies. There seem to be three options (price levels) according to wheels used.

Cast steels wheels are hard to roll, even on smooth concrete
Plastic wheels are better, but may be prone to breaking
Plastic hubs with separate casings are the best

The Rolls Royce of dollies are GoJacks, with premium prices. They use a mechanical lift, most others are hydraulic, which sometimes leak.
 Chris  
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Did you really just take the body off to prove that point???

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For OP.
Perhaps you could take the wheels off completely and put roller dollies under there??
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Can you put the ramp outside? Then use the garage for the repairs.
  
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motorworks
 


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[quote="Steamyrotter"]Did you really just take the body off to prove that point???


Of course I did Rolling with laughter

Someone here said body off can be a quick job if you have experience, so I thought it would be a fun way to spend an afternoon. I think it will take longer to put it back on.

As a bonus, I now have easy access to remove the broken turbo Wink
 Chris  
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So, guessing your job is already done. But for later reference to others; I have 2,6m free height in my garage. This was more then enough to lift the body and roll the chassis. This was a RRS, not LR3 and the body height might be a bit different amongst the two?




  
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