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discoroy
Member Since: 09 Aug 2010
Location: Durban, South Africa
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I recently bought a V8 Auto D3 with 168 000 km on the clock.
It seems to "hold " in certain ratios, and occasionally, when stopping and pulling off from a stop sign or traffic light, there is an alarming "clunk" as it seems to engage first (?) gear.
I've been told that a gearbox oil "flush" coupled with a software reset will sort this, but have also been told that the "flush" is not a good idea as it has resulted in outright failure of gearboxes in some instances.
Is this procedure part of the LR service requirements, and if it is, surely my car (with full service history) would have had this done? If it is a standard procedure, when ought it have been done or is it still to come? - some guy said the oil in the gearbox is good for 300 000 km?!?
Any comments/advice would be appreciated. 1998 Disco 1 V8 A
2007LR3 V8
2010 Volvo XC 60 D5 (SWMBO)
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 15th Sep 2010 8:20 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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The gearbox is supposedly sealed for life , but in reality it does need changing and if it has reached the stage that it is showing the symptoms that yours is , flushing as well . Try take it elsewhere if it is out of warranty , as the stealers will charge about R9 k to do a flush
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| 15th Sep 2010 8:56 pm |
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jdea
Member Since: 02 Mar 2008
Location: Tannum Sands QLD
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I think there is software patch for this issue.....
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| 16th Sep 2010 8:14 am |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Yes there is , but I suspect a flush will be needed as well . Maybe do the patch first and hold thumbs
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| 16th Sep 2010 8:51 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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AFAIK the flush sorts out the shudder in 2-3 gear uphill, but does nothing for the clunk. yes there is a software patch, but you should also check the lower front wishbone bushes on a vehicle this age
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| 16th Sep 2010 10:55 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
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I think failure after flush is related to the wrong ATF being used (one in Oz was with Penrite SIN ATF) and some very high milage vehicles.
I have the same symptoms and have just done a flush. Picking it up today so I will see how it goes. ZF ssaid judder in 2-3 may be fixed by flush but if it doesn't fix it, it will be a gearbox or valve issue. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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| 16th Sep 2010 11:15 pm |
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discoroy
Member Since: 09 Aug 2010
Location: Durban, South Africa
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Hi Caver
I'm anxiously waiting to hear if the flush you were having done has worked - please keep us posted 1998 Disco 1 V8 A
2007LR3 V8
2010 Volvo XC 60 D5 (SWMBO)
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| 17th Sep 2010 8:37 am |
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discoroy
Member Since: 09 Aug 2010
Location: Durban, South Africa
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Baben
The propshafts and carrier bearing were replaced along with new lower front wishbones.
There is still a "shoose" /whine/hum right from pulling off, not too obtrusive, especially not at high speed. Any ideas? Diff or gearbox? 1998 Disco 1 V8 A
2007LR3 V8
2010 Volvo XC 60 D5 (SWMBO)
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| 17th Sep 2010 8:45 am |
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Doc
Member Since: 17 Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
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I also have an 05 V8 and a double oil flush is a great idea. My independent dealer in Perth, who owns and runs D3's (i.e. knowlegeable), recommends a double gearbox flush every 80 000 km. I had mine done recently with 80 000 km on the clock and the oil was black and past its sell by date. The dealer also adds "smart blend anti shudder" to the oil. Gear change is silky smooth now 
I think most gearbox problems are caused by lack of lubrication. The idea of sealed for life is DUMB as anyone with a marginal knowledge of chemistry knows that oil (any type!) deteriorates with heat and time. D3 2005 HSE V8 model, snorkel, nudge bar, uprated tow hitch (12T), Goodyear Wrangler MTR (MT) tyres, National Luna battery box, Outback roof-rack, Takla seat covers.
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| 17th Sep 2010 1:51 pm |
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Frans@yamorna
Member Since: 20 Jan 2010
Location: Tzaneen
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Discoroy,
The sound you describe is what my D3 had,and it whas the rear diff.According to Centurion Gearbox Centre the rear diff make a noise from pullaway and the front diff is a highspeed sound..from 120 upwards.Replacing the rear diff cured the noise.
Good Luck!!!!
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| 17th Sep 2010 6:00 pm |
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discoroy
Member Since: 09 Aug 2010
Location: Durban, South Africa
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| 2005 D3 v8 Gearbox Problems |
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I posted this on the Africa Forum, but maybe you guys down under have something to contribute?
I recently bought a V8 Auto D3 with 168 000 km on the clock.
It seems to "hold " in certain ratios, and occasionally, when stopping and pulling off from a stop sign or traffic light, there is an alarming "clunk" as it seems to engage first (?) gear.
I've been told that a gearbox oil "flush" coupled with a software reset will sort this, but have also been told that the "flush" is not a good idea as it has resulted in outright failure of gearboxes in some instances.
Is this procedure part of the LR service requirements, and if it is, surely my car (with full service history) would have had this done? If it is a standard procedure, when ought it have been done or is it still to come? - some guy said the oil in the gearbox is good for 300 000 km?!?
Any comments/advice would be appreciated.
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2007LR3 V8
2010 Volvo XC 60 D5 (SWMBO)
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| 21st Sep 2010 5:42 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Didn't you like our answers 
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| 21st Sep 2010 7:46 pm |
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jdea
Member Since: 02 Mar 2008
Location: Tannum Sands QLD
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Does this fit?
Subject/Concern: 2-1 Harsh Transmission Shift
Models:
Discovery 3 / LR3 V8 Gasoline Only
V8 Gasoline Only VIN-range: 5A000360-6A402253
Range Rover (LM) Supercharged Gasoline Only
Supercharged Gasoline Only VIN-range: 6A198058-7A263534
Range Rover Sport (LS) Supercharged Gasoline Only
Supercharged Gasoline Only VIN-range: 5A900302-7A999999
VIN-range: 7A100000-7A119896
Markets: All
Section: 307-00
Summary:
Customer concern is:
• When the vehicle downshifts 2-1 and the throttle is re-applied, a thump is felt.
• 2-1 rollout downshift - As the vehicle comes to rest, a thump is felt.
Cause: Transmission software calibration issue. Suggested Customer Concern Code - P66.
Action: Should a customer express concern, reconfigure the Transmission Control Module (TCM) and ensure the Engine Control Module (ECM) is on a equivalent level of software, if not, reconfigure the ECM. Follow the Service Instruction outlined below.
Labour Time:
Operation Description Operation No. Time
Reconfigure the TCM and ECM 12.90.14 0.5 hours
Reconfigure the TCM and check ECM software 44.90.89/33 0.4 hours
Repair/Claim Coding:
Causal Part: RCFG
ACES Condition Code: 42
Defect Code:
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| 21st Sep 2010 9:55 pm |
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Doc
Member Since: 17 Jan 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 352
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Hi CaverD3
You mentioned problems Quote:I think failure after flush is related to the wrong ATF being used (one in Oz was with Penrite SIN ATF) and some very high milage vehicles.
with this oil in Oz.
Can you elaborate on what the problems were?
Thanks
Doc D3 2005 HSE V8 model, snorkel, nudge bar, uprated tow hitch (12T), Goodyear Wrangler MTR (MT) tyres, National Luna battery box, Outback roof-rack, Takla seat covers.
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| 22nd Sep 2010 6:44 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
Posts: 2059
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Roy:
Shoosh is good
Whine - remove Mrs from passenger seat and see if whine improves
Hum - get some decent tunes on your iPhone 
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| 22nd Sep 2010 7:30 am |
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