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Iain G
Member Since: 31 Jan 2009
Location: Filey
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| Autologic probs - speed control ECU no comms! |
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Been to the local LR specialist today with regard to enabling my new cruise control buttons and also add the settings menu.
The guy was very helpfull and knowledgable with his Autologic but not so much when used on a disco 3.
The first problem encountered was that the autologic could not communicate with the speed control ECU. Secondly he could not find where to enable the settings menu, however he did turn the annoying 'drive away' locking off. The other unrelated problem was that the screen on the autologic needed calibrating - he had to to touch the screen approx 1" to the RHS of the button he needed, this made the far RHS buttons near impossible to select.
We have left it for now as he is going to send the unit back for a screen re-cal. Can anyone suggest why the speed control ECU had no comms, I assume one is fitted to a GS. Also can anyone suggest the route from the main menu to enable the settings.
Thanks in advance,
Iain
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 20th Oct 2009 8:22 pm |
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90BHP
Member Since: 18 Oct 2006
Location: Half way along the road on the right
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Sounds like you need to meet up with Iain - 10forcash  "To finish first, one first has to finish ...."
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| 20th Oct 2009 8:24 pm |
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JF Lux
Member Since: 08 Sep 2007
Location: A little country in Europe
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Iain - don't take this the wrong way.
But you say "LR Specialist" and then say "but not so much (knowledgeable) when used on a disco 3" I would be very uncomfortable with someone plugging an Autologic into my vehicle if they were not used to the (complex) D3. I'm no expert, but from what I understand, a lot can go wrong...
I would second 90's comment. The next American ex-pat that calls it a "truck" is going to find out what 2.7 tons feels like on their foot...
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| 20th Oct 2009 8:32 pm |
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Iain G
Member Since: 31 Jan 2009
Location: Filey
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I would but I think for the size of the job 'v' distance to TFC means it's not really worth it.
I'm pretty sure in my mind it is the Autologic at fault with regards to the speed control ECU as the only hardware needed for a GS spec car to enable C.C. is the buttons IMHO. If something like a speed control ECU was not working on CAN bus I would of known about it by now. The speed control ECU must be an essential part otherwise they would not fit it to the GS spec vehicle at all??
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| 20th Oct 2009 8:36 pm |
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Iain G
Member Since: 31 Jan 2009
Location: Filey
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JF LUX,
I was a bit sceptical to start with but having seen the simplicity of the buttons and menu's on the Autologic it does seem quite user friendly. Obviously anyone in unchartered terittory could make a right royal **** up granted.
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| 20th Oct 2009 8:42 pm |
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SJR
Member Since: 09 Aug 2006
Location: East Manchester
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Iain G wrote:I would but I think for the size of the job 'v' distance to TFC means it's not really worth it.
But you won't know for sure until you contact him, he may be able to tie it in to other work he may have in your area I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
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| 20th Oct 2009 8:51 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
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Iain G wrote:If something like a speed control ECU was not working on CAN bus I would of known about it by now.
I have a feeling that the tech guy couldn't communicate with the Speed Control ECU because there is no such thing 
Seriously - I've never heard of this ECU.....ever..... 
I do believe there is a Cruise Control Module, but it could well be physically contained within another ECU which is why it is fitted to all D3s.
I know it probably won't, but I hope this helps 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| 20th Oct 2009 8:52 pm |
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Iain G
Member Since: 31 Jan 2009
Location: Filey
Posts: 430
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Unnecessary quote removed
So perhaps the guy was heading in the wrong direction completely. Do these users of the Autologic not get any manuals with the equipment that guide them through such changes (yes I know there will be hundreds of options when you take into account all LR's). I think a little pointer in the right direction would be good from someone on here that is savvy with the equipment.
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| 20th Oct 2009 9:04 pm |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
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Hi Iain,
I think that it is unfair of you to ask others to publish "intellectual property" on here for the end use of commercial competitors.
It is better for you to use those with the IP (like TFC).
Best Wishes,
Peter The Bearded Dragon
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| 21st Oct 2009 5:04 am |
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Iain G
Member Since: 31 Jan 2009
Location: Filey
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Bushwanderer wrote:Hi Iain,
I think that it is unfair of you to ask others to publish "intellectual property" on here for the end use of commercial competitors.
It is better for you to use those with the IP (like TFC).
Best Wishes,
Peter
I agree with you on the count of supplying a commercial trader with information found on this site (especially as in this instance they do not sponsor or give any input back to the site).
With regards to 'intellectual property', I would hope / assume that Autologic's intellectual property rights don't go as far as the knowledge of simply using the kit. If this was the case all the end users would be sworn to secrecy.
In any case I will call upon TFC for a quote as recommended by so many.
Iain
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| 21st Oct 2009 4:19 pm |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
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You won't be disapponted. The Bearded Dragon
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| 22nd Oct 2009 5:33 am |
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BBS SPY
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Quote:Can anyone suggest why the speed control ECU had no comms,
Oh yea, It's quite simply that you did not have one fitted to the car.
Speed control is a generic term for cruise control that in the case of regular cars means a feature built into the engine management, However in some cars the speed control is in fact a separate ECU made by Delphi. And which if fitted can be communicated with over the CAN BUS.
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| 22nd Oct 2009 11:22 pm |
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