Member Since: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Knackeragua
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Balancing Beads
1.Anyone use/used them ?
2.Is there a table that advises amounts ( Grams/Ounces) for specific tyre grades ?
I've googled with no results for 2.
6th Aug 2008 3:28 pm
Discoeast
Member Since: 19 Feb 2008
Location: Boksburg
Posts: 800
Is there a need to use these beads on a D3, normal wheel balancing does it for me.
Something similar was being sold to the trucking industry.D3 bullbar-spots-roof rack with spots-ladder-long range tank-swing out spare wheel carrier- upgraded tow bar-dash console-internal water tank-duel awnings-drawer system & T T.
6th Aug 2008 3:52 pm
crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
I'm very interested in these and would also love to hear from someone who's used them on a D3.
Does Andy from AJS use them?2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
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6th Aug 2008 3:56 pm
Wex
Member Since: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Knackeragua
Posts: 5173
I dont really know DiscoEast TBH.
Finding it hard to get a decent outfit that will balance Offroad wheels correctly.I'd say its a lot to do with not placing the tyre marks ( Red & yellow dot) on the rims properly when mounting in the first place, something I've only learned about recently.Plus I'm always losing weights , clip & stickons.
I know offroads are meant for offroad but sometimes I haven't the time to change over to tarmacs.
6th Aug 2008 3:58 pm
Wex
Member Since: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Knackeragua
Posts: 5173
Ta Paul ...
Looks like 4 oz for a 255/55/19 and 6 oz for a 265/70/17 ( I use both).
I see Devon sell them ( Dynabead) , they might be able to advise also.
wouln't lead shot do the same thing
6th Aug 2008 4:02 pm
Wex
Member Since: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Knackeragua
Posts: 5173
Lifted from Carbibles.com ( page 1)
Quote:
Coloured dots and stripes - whats that all about?
When you're looking for new tyres, you'll often see some coloured dots on the tyre sidewall, and bands of colour in the tread. These are all here for a reason, but it's more for the tyre fitter than for your benefit.
The dots on the sidewall typically denote unformity and weight. It's impossible to manufacture a tyre which is perfectly balanced and perfectly manufactured in the belts. As a result, all tyres have a point on the tread which is lighter than the rest of the tyre - a thin spot if you like. It's fractional - you'd never notice it unless you used tyre manufacturing equipment to find it, but its there. When the tyre is manufactured, this point is found and a coloured dot is put on the sidewall of the tyre corresponding to the light spot. Typically this is a yellow dot (although some manufacturers use different colours just to confuse us) and is known as the weight mark. Typically the yellow dot should end up aligned to the valve stem on your wheel and tyre combo. This is because you can help minimize the amount of weight needed to balance the tyre and wheel combo by mounting the tire so that its light point is matched up with the wheel's heavy balance point. Every wheel has a valve stem which cannot be moved so that is considered to be the heavy balance point for the wheel. (Trivia side note : wheels also have light and heavy spots. Typically the lightest spot on the wheel is found during manufacture and the heavier valve stem is then located diametrically opposite that light spot to help balance the wheel out).
As well as not being able to manufacture perfectly weighted tyres, it's also nearly impossible to make a tyre which is perfectly circular. By perfectly circular, I mean down to some nauseating number of decimal places. Again, you'd be hard pushed to actually be able to tell that a tyre wasn't round without specialist equipment. Every tyre has a high and a low spot, the difference of which is called radial runout. Using sophisticated computer analysis, tyre manufacturers spin each tyre and look for the 'wobble' in the tyre at certain RPMs. It's all about harmonic frequency (you know - the frequency at which something vibrates, like the Tacoma Narrows bridge collapse). Where the first harmonic curve from the tyre wobble hits its high point, that's where the tyre's high spot is. Manufacturers typically mark this point with a red dot on the tyre sidewall, although again, some tyres have no marks, and others use different colours. This is called the uniformity mark. Correspondingly, most wheel rims are also not 100% circular, and will have a notch or a dimple stamped into the wheel rim somewhere indicating their low point. It makes sense then, that the high point of the tyre should be matched with the low point of the wheel rim to balance out the radial runout.
What if both dots are present?
Generally speaking, if you get a tyre with both a red and a yellow dot on it, it should be mounted according to the red dot - ie. the uniformity mark should line up with the dimple on the wheel rim, and the yellow mark should be ignored.
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