Ollie GBR
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Back from holiday to find that my TDV6 is lacking in power and when accelerlating medium/hard there's an aweful lot of black smoke out the back. It sounds like the turbo isn't firing up either 
Could it be a loose pipe? [Hopefully]
There's no error messages on the dash.
Help
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Split or delaminated Intercooler pipe most likely.
Could also be EGR valve stuck open  Bodsys Brake Bible
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| 23rd Jul 2010 9:10 am |
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PaulP
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Bodsy wrote:Split or delaminated Intercooler pipe most likely.
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Ollie GBR
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Is that easy to get to? Easy to remove and inspect??
Thanks This Game of Ghosts
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BrumLee
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Really easy to get to. You can see the top of the o/s hose once the bonnet is open. The bottom of the hose is accessed behind the plastic inspection panel at the bottom front of o/s wheel arch. It's held in with four plastic studs. The hose normally splits at the top.
Had to tighten the hose clip on the n/s lower intercooler hose as it was blowing. Has anyone had this hose go as I've already replace the o/s one after it split 
Changed oil and all filters, and smoke has cut down a fair amount. I'd check your air filter as mine was quite dirty and was maybe caused by all the volcanic dust that was floating around recently  Faultmate MSV2 EXTREME
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| 23rd Jul 2010 10:05 am |
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Ollie GBR
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BrumLee wrote:Really easy to get to. You can see the top of the o/s hose once the bonnet is open. The bottom of the hose is accessed behind the plastic inspection panel at the bottom front of o/s wheel arch. It's held in with four plastic studs. The hose normally splits at the top.
Had to tighten the hose clip on the n/s lower intercooler hose as it was blowing. Has anyone had this hose go as I've already replace the o/s one after it split
Changed oil and all filters, and smoke has cut down a fair amount. I'd check your air filter as mine was quite dirty and was maybe caused by all the volcanic dust that was floating around recently
The hose is indeed split at the top
Gaffa tape and take for a spin before ordering a new hose.(making sure that's the only problem). This Game of Ghosts
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PaulP
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TBH I think I would stump up a bit extra cash and get a silicone pipe from Pete @ BAS (around 80ish GBP compared to 40ish GBP for the LR one)....at least it shouldn't fail again in the future
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| 23rd Jul 2010 11:45 am |
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grzesiul
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Ollie should your pipe burst you can have mine old one in perfect working order ...
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Ollie GBR
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OK, now getting Micky Mouse style squeak as I accelerate off and still black clouds follow me. Could it be sucking through the gaffa tape, (unlikely)??
Regardless, it needs changing. This Game of Ghosts
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grzesiul
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have you spoken to Pete at BAS??? he might be able to look at the map and maybe suggest something
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| 23rd Jul 2010 12:49 pm |
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BrumLee
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Ollie GBR wrote:Could it be sucking through the gaffa tape, (unlikely)??
No sucking... only blows   Faultmate MSV2 EXTREME
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| 23rd Jul 2010 12:57 pm |
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PaulP
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The gaffer/duck tape trick will work as a temporary fix for a very small hole/split, but no way would it be able to hold the pressure if it was a bigger split (> 2-3mm?) 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| 23rd Jul 2010 1:32 pm |
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BrumLee
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I used self-amalgamating silicone tape which lasted quite well as the new hose was on back order. Faultmate MSV2 EXTREME
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