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Car not starting - no signal to starter motor trigger wire..

Hi All,

I've got a problem with the Disco after fiddling around with my Faultmate. I don't think it is connected to the fiddling but you never know??

Symptoms:- Turn on the ignition to position II, ignition lights come on as normal and car goes through its checks. Turn to position III to turn over the engine and all you get is a couple of clicks from the passenger compartment fuse/relay box.

I thought I had flattened the battery after having the Faultmate on for a while, so I put it on charge overnight. Next morning, still the same, so I wacked on some jump leads from my van as I didn't trust the starter, still the same.

Suspicious of the battery I gave the AA a call to get them to check out the battery.

'Very Nice Man' arrived, checked the battery & ruled that out. He had a good fiddle about and found there was no signal going down the starter motor trigger wire. He checked the relay and fuses but could not find anything out of the ordinary.

He then frigged up a direct feed to the trigger wire and the car started no problem. Confused Confused

Any ideas anyone? Is there a fuse somewhere both he and I have missed? I have tried another relay as the next one in the box is just the same spec and ruled that out.

I imagine it is something daft I have missed so I would really appreciate someone pointing me in the right direction specially as all my kids are disappointed about not going round Driffield off-road course today!! Sad Sad Eldest one is even talking about missing pony club tomorrow so we can go then!!

T.I.A. for any help,

Rich

P.S. Faultmate not showing any error codes.
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stupid question... it's definitely in neutral when you are trying to start it? Confused
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2nd stupid question - it's got fuel?
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blue meanie wrote:
stupid question... it's definitely in neutral when you are trying to start it? Confused


In neutral (its a manual so shouldn't make a difference) and I have tried depressing clutch and brake just in case, even though it has never been necessary before. (in fact would rule out all those handy stalled hill start techniques given out by LR Experience)

Ta for the input though... Smile
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Flat battery?
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bigdave wrote:
2nd stupid question - it's got fuel?


As said in original post car starts & runs fine if direct feed sent down trigger wire to starter.

Tank 3/4's full too, to answer your question!! Thumbs Up

Once again thanks for input... Very Happy
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Re: Car not starting - no signal to starter motor trigger wi

luvbus wrote:


I thought I had flattened the battery after having the Faultmate on for a while, so I put it on charge overnight. Next morning, still the same, so I wacked on some jump leads from my van as I didn't trust the starter, still the same.

Suspicious of the battery I gave the AA a call to get them to check out the battery.

'Very Nice Man' arrived, checked the battery & ruled that out.


Why come up with that then Neil Question
  
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NeilD wrote:
Flat battery?


Sorry Luvbus, didnt read the Full MO!.
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NeilD wrote:
Flat battery?


Anybody actually reading first post???? Laughing Laughing

Battery charged, checked out fine and starts engine with no problem with direct feed to starter trigger wire.

Ta Neil Thumbs Up
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Are you sure you have'nt disabled your D3 with the Faultmate un-intentionally, like immobiliser....
 

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Re: Car not starting - no signal to starter motor trigger wi

luvbus wrote:
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Suspicious of the battery I gave the AA a call to get them to check out the battery.

'Very Nice Man' arrived, checked the battery & ruled that out.
Rich


Come on Neil - wake up Laughing

Edit ; sorry guys - too slow to type there Embarassed
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Beat me too it!! Laughing Laughing
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MacLeod 313 wrote:
Are you sure you have'nt disabled your D3 with the Faultmate un-intentionally.


It is possible Mac, I have posted a message on the BBS website too.

Just seems odd that the car will run fine once started, seems more of a physical problem rather than software. No fault codes showing up either on the dash or Faultmate.

Thought somebody might have come up with something similar on here, also, no official BBS support till Monday.

Keep em rolling in guys!! Thumbs Up
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Re: Car not starting - no signal to starter motor trigger wi

crwoody wrote:
luvbus wrote:
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Suspicious of the battery I gave the AA a call to get them to check out the battery.

'Very Nice Man' arrived, checked the battery & ruled that out.
Rich


Come on Neil - wake up Laughing

Edit ; sorry guys - too slow to type there Embarassed


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Have you tried the SPARE key Question , might be an imobiliser problem Question
  
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