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gstuart
 


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Change of part names

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1...slave.html

Jaguar Land Rover has said the the decision to ban the word was made after it was 'called for by our employees' - but there has reportedly somewhat of a stir on the shop floor.

One worker told The Sun: 'It's just one more example of wokeism and it's as a result of a few voices making a fuss. It's so stupid because 'slave' in car making refers to a component that supports the function of another - "slave" and "master". No one here supports slavery. We just want to build great cars and go home.'
   
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we was great Britain once
  
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Can u even say that these days Laughing,

Seems these woke snowflakes from a very small proportion of society in one way or another get triggered over the slightest thing , then if companies / individuals don’t fall into there way of thinking there’s the risk of getting cancelled along with being called a raciest
   
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Re: Change of part names

gstuart wrote:
We just want to build great cars and go home.'


Be great if you could, not this Censored your churning out at the moment Whistle
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I'm waiting for more of these changes.

We already have Parking Brake so as not to offend people who's arms stop at the wrist.

Personifold next I reckon Whistle
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I wonder about such terms as ‘motherboard’?

How about pink for girls, blue for boys?


When a word is used is it intended to upset or insult someone that is wrong but that is different to word used in historic context.

Just be careful about rewriting history. Now as a kid the N word was used in the eenie meenie, picking rhyme. Now when I told some modern day youngsters about the old fashion picking song I got told off. They could not understand the historical context.


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galwaygreen wrote:
we was great Britain once


You do know why the word "Great" is in Great Britain, don't you?
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Woke language filtering has been going of for more than a few years now and some groups created a 'dictionary' of words they wanted banned including 'slave' used in various functions in manufacturing and also other phrases (usually identified by an acronym not the words Rolling Eyes ) such as MMI = Man-machine-interface with a push to neutralise language on pretty much everything.

One of the various mandatory 'awareness' courses at JLR when I was there was intimating this push to recognise 'wrong' in our daily language, complete and utter ball cocks pushed by an industry that has sprung up to create a job role/wealth for itself. There are people there now that are on so many initiatives, working parties, awareness groups, diversity, culture and anything else you can think of they have no time to do a 'proper' job and that is pretty much their 'career' and the way up the greasy pole Rolling Eyes

You only have to look at a random selection of LinkedIn posts these days to see what people are doing in professions and its less and less about work and more about 'Facebook lite' or 'wokenism' than business...

It's Censored nuts and yet again the tiny minority and snowflake army 'win' the day Rolling Eyes

(yes it may well just be 'me' and I'm a 'dinosaur', blah, blah, blah but way too much red-tape in industry and its massively weighed down by all the additional 'right on' stuff in the world on top)
  
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leeds wrote:
I wonder about such terms as ‘motherboard’?

How about pink for girls, blue for boys?


When a word is used is it intended to upset or insult someone that is wrong but that is different to word used in historic context.

Just be careful about rewriting history. Now as a kid the N word was used in the eenie meenie, picking rhyme. Now when I told some modern day youngsters about the old fashion picking song I got told off. They could not understand the historical context.


Brendan


Whilst I agree with your general point, it's worth remembering that language evolves. Words change their meanings over time. Acceptable words become unacceptable and vice versa. Times change and getting upset about it won't stop it.
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Agreed about change in acceptance of words.

However words used in historic context to me is acceptable even if in todays time they are unacceptable in modern day usage.

Have to be careful history is not white washed out. Slave/slavery and the effects of them are being whitewashed out of UK history. However modern day slavery exists in todays UK. IMO it is more important to fight/root out modern day slavery in the UK then renaming the clutch slave cylinder.


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Just read that part of Cambridge University has had a change of name.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-61953668
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Oh,
Dear me does this I will need to get a new name for my 16” b Censored d file? How about the “Dolly” I use to get hubs etc of . Slide hammer perhaps? With this continual none sense we will soon have to have descriptions of things that will rival those of the French language. Heaven forbid. For now I will use the old and trusted names.
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My response to this - as to anything of its ilk - is "don't be so pathetic". I'm not supposed to use "Hello, Gents" in e-mails in case they don't identify as male.

Languages evolve but this sort of thing is an enforced step-change (an evolutionary 'extinction'). It is
very sinister and not only the result of the 'offence/diversity' industry but indoctrination in schools. Taking away the word 'slave' isn't going to help anyone.

Students' attitudes to free speech have changed:

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Students have “become less liberal in their approach to freedom of expression in recent years”, according to a study published this week (the Times, Mail and Guardian). A poll of 1,019 UK undergraduates by the Higher Education Policy Institute (HEPI) suggests that they want more restrictions on free speech than their predecessors who came of age around the time of the Brexit referendum.

Thirty-nine per cent said students’ unions should “ban all speakers that cause offence” – more than double the 16% found last time the survey was undertaken in 2016. More than one-third (36%) of the respondents also believe academics should be fired if they “teach material that heavily offends some students”, up from 15% in 2016. And when presented with the phrase “if you debate an issue like sexism or racism, you make it acceptable”, the proportion of students expressing some agreement doubled to 35% (up from 17% in 2016) – and the proportion expressing complete disagreement halved (down from 38% to 20%).

As the report’s author, Nick Hillman, remarks, it is “abundantly clear” that “a high proportion of students have a very different conception of academic freedom and free speech norms than earlier generations and from many of those who legislate, regulate or govern UK higher education institutions”. Hillman charitably attributes this decline in support for free speech to the tough time students have had in the past six years – Covid, industrial action, the ‘cost-of-living-crisis’ – leading to a preoccupation with ‘safety’. Maybe so, Toby Young concedes in the Spectator, “but surely the main cause is that organisations such as Stonewall and Advance HE have successfully infected British universities with hard-left identitarian ideology under the guise of promoting ‘diversity and inclusion’”.


Ah, the joys of living in an early dystopian sci-fi novel. Rolling Eyes
 
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next we won't be able to say we are "woke" for fear of upsetting the somnambulatory community or the sleep-apnea support society.
  
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