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Changing brake discs
While I was having some work done recently, I was 'advised' by the local dealer that I would soon need new front pads / disks. He quoted an all in of 'around' £350.
This seems a little steep especially as the parts appear readily available at reasonable rates (Nick are you listening...?).
The questions are:
1. How easy is it to change the discs? I've seen the topic for changing pads and done several cars / bikes over the years.
and
2. Having read this topic - http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic13164.html - is this a worthwhile improvement and would it be possible / sensible to only do the front discs?I see no ships........
Disc are straight forward to change, Brembo's will make an approvement but the amount you feel will depend on your driving style
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19th Sep 2008 10:50 pm
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do it yourself. Dead easy if you have the right star sockets. Bodsys Brake Bible
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19th Sep 2008 11:15 pm
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& a torque wrench that does up to 275Nm!
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20th Sep 2008 6:47 am
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Bodsy - do you know off hand what size star sockets are needed?
Steve - which bolts need doing to 275Nm? I'd normally use a long bar and the old 'two grunts, a groan and a gasp' method of popping things that tight but I may have to buy a new torque wrench to do things properly.....
I'm guessing that even after buying the bits and maybe one or two tools, I'll still be quids in - my Saturday labour rate is cheaper than a dealer plus I'll save on not being on the grog while I'm doing it!I see no ships........
20th Sep 2008 12:34 pm
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See this thread. I'll add it to my Brake ZIP file when I get the chance
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20th Sep 2008 12:37 pm
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Spiderbaby, I boiught some 6t axle stands on the basis of the money I was saving and it was still loads cheaper than the stealer doing it.
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20th Sep 2008 12:59 pm
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The caliper bracket to hub bolts, the big ones which don't undo easily
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20th Sep 2008 6:05 pm
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I've now seen a number of posts on the Forum about changing disks on the D3 and I've started to wonder if the disks on a D3 are regarded as a consumable (like pads and filters).
I've recently changed the disks on my 10 year old D1 from standard OEM to slotted and grooved purely for upgrade purposes - the 10 year old OEMs weren't scored and would probably have been good for another 10 years.
What is the life expectancy of a D3 disk where pads have always been changed in line with LR's recommendations?
2nd Oct 2008 11:52 pm
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You wrote what I have been thinking. My Camel has done 100000 miles the front non vented discs are still OK but the rear are at the minimum thickness. (something the next owner can sort out). And that is with a lot off off-roading.
If you go off-road with a D3 you will wear your pads and discs faster as the traction control will be working and you will notice that it will work a lot.
It isn't the weight as my Camel is also 2500 kg on the scale.Roel
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Spiderbaby, I agree with Bodsy. its easy and only takes about 1 1/2 hours if you jack up each wheel seperatly, which is why i'm suprised at your £350 quote. Just be sure to be careful when you remove the sensors as there is avery small metal clip that can drop out of the end that attaches to the pad. My first set of pads were changed by my dealer and they charged £150 inc VATDuncan
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Philhunt, It really does sem to vary from vehicle to vehicle & very dependant on driving styles & motorway/town driving.
Some have had 40k out of a set of pads, I changed mine all round at 26k, disks are still fine. Others have had 8-10k out of pads,
As for the disks, Someone posted that their first set were worn out very quickly on an earlier D3 and the replacement set have been much more hardwearing.
Are they a consumable item? Yes I'm afraid so and only regular checking of the pads will really save your disks from wearing down too much. Even then, mileage can never be guaranteed.Bodsys Brake Bible
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3rd Oct 2008 9:26 am
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Spider baby
I have got new pads and discs and am changing mine at the front this weekend for the first time. I have done them before on a RRS but this had Brembos.
just make sure you have a proper axle jack and your not trying to do them on the wheel changing jack. It was never designed for this and is a recipe for a serious accident that at best would be your car and at worst would be that you would be .
Other wise, if you have the right tools, it should be a breeze. My stealer quoted £280 plus VAT so £329 all in. Your quote sounds about right.
As for life expectancy, mine have now done 53K miles, most motorway with lots of 80mph - 10mph sudden braking, not a bad life expectancy really.
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3rd Oct 2008 9:30 am
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Quote:
Other wise, if you have the right tools, it should be a breeze. My stealer quoted £280 plus VAT so £329 all in. Your quote sounds about right.
I paid £150 inc vat
Do the discs vary in quality then..
Ive done 78k in my 06 model with lots of towing + lots of HDC use, and the discs are fine, just getting the end of set of pads number 2.Duncan
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3rd Oct 2008 9:32 am
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The cost for pads changed alone is £150, the labour intensive work, and obvious material cost, is in the discs. As for use, my experience tends to show that it can be pot luck with disc age. Some many factors go into their wear.
I bought discs and pads (mintex) today for £85 incl vat for this weekends work
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but I may have to buy a new torque wrench to do things properly.....
and at worst would be that you would be 
