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danny
 


Member Since: 17 May 2008
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Hi Crazy
I bought just resently the remaping from http://www.rapidremap.co.uk/.
I also was a little confused and affraid since I'm in Israel. Ibought the two versions but I am driving with the
"diesel save" for about 3 weeks. I can see a saving of 10-15% overall consumpion.
I did not try the power version since I think the D3 has enough power and what the driver will not do in the
rocks the remaping will help but with damage.
I agree with our spanish freind (PaulP). You do not need to fear the process !! It is easy.

Danny

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crazy
 


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Thanks Danny, my electronic ability is like those of elephant in a room full of glass, but ......... wait and see.
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CFB wrote:
It wasn't a joke, a chap posted on here recently about a plug-in tuning box over fuelling his engine. It caused serious damage and voided the warranty.


I am not sure that was actually the case, the jury is still out, and indications are that it was an injector failure IMO- although naturally LR would like to use the box as a reason not to honour the warranty.

There are quite a few cases of remappers breaking engines too Shocked believe it or not.

It comes down to who is doing the software at the end of the day, and thats what you need to be careful of - don't let anyone experiment with your D3, its not just a run-of-the-mill engine remap - go with a reputable bloke who specialises in D3 - you have been intoduced to 2 of them in this post Thumbs Up
  
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danny
 


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Dear Crazy
I don't know is it concern but looking in your picture I can see that you like rocks ?!
For your info my car is in the dealer shop because I ruined the front right axle shaft while driving
with new remaping in the rocks.
You must be aware that the diffrential lock enter while driving and this is a problem while we play in the rocks !!!
danny[/i]
  
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PaulP
 


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Hi Danny,

You've lost me.....you broke your D3 because you had your engine remapped?

When you say you were playing in the rocks, which Terrain Response mode did you have the D3 in? Was it in Rock Crawl?

Please let us know which TR mode you were using.....

Cheers,
Paul
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Particularly as there is no diff lock on the front drive???

Traction control might cut in and force power to the opposite wheel which will put some stress on the car but it was intended to work like this and the D3 system is intelligent enough to reduce power surely?
  
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dick dastardly
 


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The TR has its own maps / throttle response etc. The TR maps are not (should not / cannot ? )be changed when tuning. So when using a TR mode, you are still using the standard LR map for that particular terrain.
 There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song  
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PaulP
 


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Spoil my surprise why don't you Rolling Eyes

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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10forcash
 


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This illustrates quite nicely the difference between a carefully researched and implemented remap and a plug-in box (or a sloppy remap) the area taken up by all the various maps is about 2Mb, the 'general' programme engine map is about 48kb, although some of the remainder is buffering bytes
  
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Hmmm....sorry Danny, but something doesn't sound right.....you mentioned that you were using the 'economy map'.

I have used an economy TDV6 map from rapidremap and it is very very subtle.....fuel consumption improved a lot, but power increase is minimal.....just a little bit livelier than normal.

If you had used a TR mode as expected when playing on rocks, then you would have been using the standard engine power of 190CV, which has nothing to do with the re-map. Which differential are you talking about? The centre diff?

The output of the economy map is probably only around 210bhp at the most, so I don't think this had anything to do with your drive-shaft failure. Wink
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More like extended mode with extreme steering angles, at a guess it was the LH side one that failed?
  
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crazy
 


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Sorry but is the Rapidremap or the other a general remap? (+X% in all TR programs) or it only tune the street map?
Thanks for the reply.
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 Landy lover
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All re-maps only affect the general driving mode (as you say Street Map). They do not increase power in any of the off-road TR programs.
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crazy
 


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Are you shure?
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dick dastardly
 


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Yes. Even sport mode should not be affected by the remaps. Sport mode 0-100kmh 2 seconds slower than "Street mode".
 There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song  
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