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Gran
 


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D3 wheel bearing

HI folks.

Hopefully a quick one, is there any adjustment on the front wheel bearings or once you get movement it's an hub exchange job?

Cheers

Keith
  
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LIAMMCL
 


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New hub only, buy a Timken one.
  
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Gran
 


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Thanks.

Keith
  
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I did the second of my front wheel bearings today (Timken). 4 hours start to finish. There's something somewhat satisfying about battering my Discovery with a massive hammer.......! That's what you do to remove the old hub!
  
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Why batter it with a hammer?

30-45 mins max ! Per side (fronts)

I went for the mid priced ones from AF as they all had the 2yr warranty
  
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I see your watch is set to mythical forum repair times!

From getting out all of the tools required, stopping for cups of tea, doing the actual work, looking up torque settings, to packing it all away it is 4 hours.


While it is fresh in my mind:


Hub retaining bolts 115 nm
Caliper carrying bolts 275 nm
Disc retaining bolt 35nm
the other 2 caliper bolts 35nm
Hub nut 230nm
Tie rod end 70nm

That should save you 10 minutes.

Tip from me would be to break off the tie rod end as step 1 to give better access to the hub retaining bolts. Also leave the nut on the end of the tie rod end before you hit it with a hammer like I forgot to do today. I had to persuade some threads back in place.

Buy the premium Timken bearing/hub assembly because the highest cost part of this process is your own time. I have no intention of repeating this job on my car.

And yes, battering the old hub with a hammer. My car was made in 2006 and lives in Switzerland. There is plenty of corrosion holding your old hub in place even in the UK, believe me.
 

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I’m sorry you seem to have made work for yourself by releasing the tie rod end

Imo 4 hrs is excessive even with cups of tea.


My car is 2004 and by no means rust free
I’ve never in all my years of changing front bearing on my d3s had the need to hammer the old bearing off!
A tap on centre of the drive shaft to pop it back a bit and that’s it


To say my times are forum mythical are quite insulting,

It’s a simple procedure tbh,

Using all the correct torque settings
Break off hubnut before jacking car up
Jack up car & axle stand
Wheel off
Hub nut off
Caliper off & carrier off in one (& brake line nut)
Disk off
4 nuts that hold hub off
Centre punch drive shaft
Take off old hub,


Reverse process using torques etc


Really not that difficult
  
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mek
 


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For fun, why don't you put a time estimate against each step you have described? It's not going to add up to 30 minutes. I confess I did not think of taking caliper off & carrier off in one


Take out all required tools
Break off hubnut before jacking car up
Jack up car & axle stand
Wheel off
Hub nut off
Caliper off & carrier off in one (& brake line nut)
Disk off
4 nuts that hold hub off
Centre punch drive shaft
Take off old hub,
Reverse process using torques etc
Pack away all tools
  
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So i did this today its the last thing on my list of todo stuff after doing the big items previously....cam belts and oil pump etc.

About an hour in total only needed todo the nearside hub and that was taking it slow with a tea break
  
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Thumbs Up
  
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Do you not remove the ABS sensor...I'm always concerned I'll damage it while taking the hub out if not?
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Never have removed it

More concerned about breaking it when removing actual sensor.


It’s ones of those jobs I like doing on a d3

I look after my parents d3 too Thumbs Up
  
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I did mine 3 weeks ago.
Replaced 1 hub bearing,& both front disks & pads.
Took just over 1 hour....No cups of tea. Smile
Marc
  
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yogi972 wrote:
Never have removed it

More concerned about breaking it when removing actual sensor.


Mine come out easily now, but always very cautious on a 'new to me' car.
I've had hubs in the past that would break the sensor if not removed first - Mondeo/X-Type IIRC.
Good to know though.
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mek wrote:
I see your watch is set to mythical forum repair times!

From getting out all of the tools required, stopping for cups of tea, doing the actual work, looking up torque settings, to packing it all away it is 4 hours.


While it is fresh in my mind:


Hub retaining bolts 115 nm
Caliper carrying bolts 275 nm
Disc retaining bolt 35nm
the other 2 caliper bolts 35nm
Hub nut 230nm
Tie rod end 70nm

That should save you 10 minutes.

Tip from me would be to break off the tie rod end as step 1 to give better access to the hub retaining bolts. Also leave the nut on the end of the tie rod end before you hit it with a hammer like I forgot to do today. I had to persuade some threads back in place.

Buy the premium Timken bearing/hub assembly because the highest cost part of this process is your own time. I have no intention of repeating this job on my car.

And yes, battering the old hub with a hammer. My car was made in 2006 and lives in Switzerland. There is plenty of corrosion holding your old hub in place even in the UK, believe me.

Hi Mek.
I’d be happy with four hours to do that job.
Changing a wheel can take nearly an hour, by the time you’ve dropped the spare down, swapped them over and put everything back. Good job at least you didn’t pay anyone to do it.
  
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