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Gazzer
 


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D3's a la Francais

Hi peeps, hoping to move to France next year and looking to get a D3 HSE. Looking on the french websites the HSE doesn' texist as it seems to be BYO (build your own spec) which notches up to 60,000 euros for a UK HSE specced D3. This equates to about £40k which is still less than the £44k charged for a UK HSE D3. (Before discounts)

What is the French VAT my maths seems to work it at 16.3% is this correct?

I have investigated buying a UK D3 here which you can do with no VAT added and then registering it in France and paying duty there. But what list price will the French use to calculate the VAT, French pricing which is less or what you paid????

I am just seeing if by getting off my ar$e I may save myslef a few squids.

So do those UK/French residents have a UK car or a French car???

G
    
Post #1078407th Dec 2006 4:20 pm
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Gurvan
 


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French VAT is 19,6%...

The HSE exist on the French market but its specs might be different from the UK market as the specs are market dependant...

Being French, I have a HSE (French specs with some extras...) with LHD... Wink
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Post #1078897th Dec 2006 5:56 pm
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Gazzer
 


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Ouch, better off with 17.5% VAT here in UK.

May I ask how much you payed on the road for a French D3 with UK spec HSE? I see from the internet, you are right they call it HSE but everything seems to be an optional extra is this right?

onfort et agrément

* Régulateur de vitesse
* Ordinateur de bord
* Climatisation automatique
* Siège conducteur à réglage électrique dans huit directions
* Sièges passagers à réglage électrique dans six directions
* Sièges à revêtement cuir
* Mémorisation des réglages du siège conducteur
* Sept sièges adultes sur trois rangées (en option)
* Pommeau et soufflet de levier de vitesses gainés cuir
* Seconde rangée de sièges rabattable 35/30/35
* Accoudoir conducteur
* Miroirs de courtoisie éclairés
* Cache-baggages – plage arrière
* Lampes de lecture pour la troisième rangée de sièges (7 places uniquement)
* Eclairage au plancher
Trois porte-gobelets avant

Style et aspect pratique

* Jantes en alliage de 18" Style 2 (19" sur V8)
* Assistance au stationnement en marche arrière
* Projecteurs bi-xénon
* Filet à bagages arrière
* Projecteurs antibrouillard avant
* Feux à déclenchement automatique
* Lave-phares électriques
* Détecteur de pluie
* Rétroviseur intérieur photosensible

Système de divertissement embarqué

* Système audio harman/kardon LOGIC7® à 8 haut-parleur et caisson de basses actif
* Changeur 6 CD intégré à la planche de bord
* Commande audio à distance
* Commandes du système audio au volant

Sécurité et protection

* Répartiteur électronique de freinage
* Système de freinage ABS à quatre canaux avec freins à disques ventilés
* Feu de stop centrale surélevé
* Contrôle dynamique de la stabilité
* Système actif d´atténuation du roulis
* Frein de stationnement électronique
* Airbags rideaux pour le conducteur et le passager avant
* Airbags rideaux pour les rangées 2 et 3 (rangée 3 disponible sur 7 places uniquement)

Translation:
nfort and approval * Speed regulator * Computer of edge * Automatic air-conditioning * Sit conducting at electrical regulation in eight directions * Momentary seats with electrical regulation in six directions * Seats with coating leather * Memorizing of the adjustments of the conducting seat * Seven adult seats out of three lines (in option) * Pommel and bellows of gear shift lever sheathed leather * Second line of throw back seats 35/30/35 * Conducting balustrade * Enlightened vanity mirrors * Mask-baggages - beach back * Reading lamps for the third line of seats (7 places only) * Lighting with the floor Three front carry-goblets Style and practical aspect * Alloy rims of 18"Style 2 (19" out of V8) * Assistance with the parking in reverse gear * Projectors Bi-xenon * Back net with luggage * Front projectors fog * Fires with automatic release * Electric headlamp washers * Detector of rain * Photosensitive interior rear view mirror System of embarked entertainment * Audio system harman/kardon LOGIC7® with 8 loudspeaker and box of low credit * Changer 6 CD integrated into the instrument panel * Order audio remotely * Orders of the audio system at the wheel Safety and protection * Electronic distributor of braking * Brake ABS to four channels with ventilated disc brakes * Elevated brake light power station * Dynamic check of stability * Active system of attenuation of rolling * Electronic parking brake * Airbags curtains for the front driver and passenger * Airbags curtains for lines 2 and 3 (line 3 available out of 7 places only)

Need to know whether to buy a LHD or RHD.

Many thanks.

G
    
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simon
  


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Only the French would have have a D3 to "carry-goblets Style" Wink
  
Post #1079537th Dec 2006 8:32 pm
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Gurvan
 


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I don't recall the exact price but it was below 56.000€ with a warranty that was extended to 5 years and some goodies like the Rear Difflock or the extended rear AC for instance.

You can "negotiate" the fixed price with the dealerships with 7% being the average offer. Then, on the net you can find down to 14% by asking insurance companies and provided that you insure the vehicle through them...

I am not sure if you could get a French registry if the vehicle is RHD as an LHD version is readily available on the market...

If the use is to be essentially in France, I would not bother with an RHD which would be hard to sell here... Now, if you intend to resell, in a few years, in the UK, you might want to consider an RHD...
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Post #1079577th Dec 2006 8:42 pm
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Gazzer
 


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Thanks Gurvan, I would prefer to go RHD but my French is not good at the mo (hope to get it alot better!) so I'm not sure about trying to buy and sell a car in France. Any idea on the residual after 3 years, Uk will be about 45-48% after 3 years, hoping France is better.

G
    
Post #1080307th Dec 2006 10:03 pm
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Gurvan
 


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Gazzer wrote:
Thanks Gurvan, I would prefer to go RHD but my French is not good at the mo (hope to get it alot better!) so I'm not sure about trying to buy and sell a car in France. Any idea on the residual after 3 years, Uk will be about 45-48% after 3 years, hoping France is better.

G


Sorry... I don't have a clue as to what the residue value might be after a few years in France as I intend to keep mine quite a while.

I can probably help a bit as far as buying a car in France is concerned but that might also depend on where you plan to settle as it is always more evident to deal with a dealership nearby... Wink
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Post #1082188th Dec 2006 12:23 pm
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IanD
 


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Our car was ordered in the UK to UK HSE spec, but LHD.

The French (and I think all Euro) specs are roughly one level lower for the same tailgate badge, so a French HSE equates to a UK SE, etc.

I'm not sure how difficult it is to insure and register a modern imported car here, since if the car doesn't have French type approval (as opposed to European), you could in in the merde! Crying or Very sad

We were able to insure our ancient car when we came, as a classic, but it would have been horrendous to registering it on normal French plates!
  
Post #1082378th Dec 2006 12:59 pm
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Gazzer
 


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Thaanks G and I.

Will be down on the Cote D'Azur and I too was wondering if you actually could could 'register' a UK RHD in France. Need to investigate further me thinks.

G
    
Post #1084769th Dec 2006 1:26 pm
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Gurvan
 


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You may want to try those guys :

ELLERY
99-101 BOULEVARD GRENELLE
75015 PARIS
tél. +33 1 45 79 81 51

They are in Paris, but I know that they do exports and stuff like that... Might be worth a try...
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Post #1084779th Dec 2006 1:29 pm
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Gazzer
 


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merci beacoup!
    
Post #1084799th Dec 2006 1:51 pm
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Gurvan
 


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De rien...

And I guess that they must have someone who speaks English... Wink
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Post #1084809th Dec 2006 1:54 pm
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Gazzer
 


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If not thats when you come in!!! Laughing

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Post #10864310th Dec 2006 5:11 pm
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Gurvan
 


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Why not ?! Laughing

Just let me know before what you want... I am not quite good at simultaneous translation... Wink Crying or Very sad
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Cheers.
    
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