Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
debris in oil filter
Hmmm i opened the oil filter from my TDV6 D3 this afternoon..
and found this..
as i am rather new to this specific land rover model, is it possible to change the big-end shells without a body off?
i know, the debris can be from anywere in the engine, but there is a "knock" in the engine since 4 miles.
also one of the injectors is restricted, i was "hoping" that the injector was causing the knock, but maybe the damage is bigger... (can be both)
i had it before in another car, faulty o-ring or bad replaced o-ring caused a oils shortage for a few miles, changing the shells solved and rescued the engine then.. but on that car we had easy access to them..
can it be checked and done with the engine still in?
thanks in advance for an answer..Best regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
20th Jan 2020 5:21 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10361
I think this guy changed shells body on
you have to take the fan and fan plastic surround off
belt tensioner and bracket off
To slide the bottom of the engine off and up
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20th Jan 2020 7:16 pm
DrRobH
Member Since: 10 Oct 2015
Location: Hampshire
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Sell it quickly ? Visitor from fullfatrr.com
RR Vogue SE 2011 4.4 TDV8
1974 Lightweight
20th Jan 2020 7:17 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6568
Strip it for parts!
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20th Jan 2020 7:19 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
Hi quys,
I like a joke time to time, but please let’s keep it technical, and keep my question in mind....
it is gonna be repaired either way...
edit: add on & typoBest regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
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20th Jan 2020 7:27 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13882
'Technically' it doesn't look good. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
do the bits get attracted to a magnet ? might be a clue as to where they are from.
21st Jan 2020 12:02 am
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
It is mainly soft metal...... almost nothing of the debris does get attracted by a strong magnet....Best regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
21st Jan 2020 12:33 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13882
Aren't the stank bearings bronze so non ferrous?New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
21st Jan 2020 1:06 am
Globetrotter448
Member Since: 21 Mar 2017
Location: Londonderry NSW
Posts: 1782
It will depend on whether any bearings have spun, if so crank may need attention
21st Jan 2020 3:25 am
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
How long has the oil and filter been in there?
I would be thinking a 2nd hand engine may be your safest option.
21st Jan 2020 3:31 am
aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
Posts: 2459
If its soft metal its going to be bearings.
At the moment the engine is salvagable so i would be pulling the engine and rebuilding. If you continue to let it run and spin a bearing you will be looking at 1.5k for a donnor engine.
There is a lot of labour involved but parts costs should be low if you are able to reuse your own engine parts.
21st Jan 2020 7:25 am
aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
Posts: 2459
Pete K wrote:
I think this guy changed shells body on
you have to take the fan and fan plastic surround off
belt tensioner and bracket off
To uslide the bottom of the engine off and up
With bearings that bad you are looking at a crank regrind, i would also be looking for a reason for the wear.
No wonder the noise was still there!
21st Jan 2020 7:28 am
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
lynalldiscovery wrote:
How long has the oil and filter been in there?
I would be thinking a 2nd hand engine may be your safest option.
I do not know.... since I bought this motor 100miles ago, did run fine on some test drives (it is not licensed in NL yet, still on foreign plates) and 4 miles ago it started knocking... just after I blanked the egr.... there should be no connection between that work and a crankshaft..
Thanks for your input guys!
We do rebuilding (motorcycle) engines for a living. So I know my way around inside an engine.
BUT as said, new to this specific Land Rover (D3) That is why I wanted to know what you can do / check on the engine without a body off procedure....
If the crank itself needs attention, I will opt for a spare engine I think, so it will need to come out and I know what to do, but if the crank is still ok, and “only” the big-end shells need replacement, well that would save a lot of time and effort....Best regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
21st Jan 2020 9:24 am
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8074
What about the main shells?- you cannot change those without the engine out. It all depends on what your intentions are with it, if keeping it any length of time do the job properly. I think the seller made a good decision It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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