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RRSTDV8 wrote:
The Dundonian wrote:
Sorry, but SWMBO had two DSs and they are s e cars. Wouldn’t touch one, even the new one, with a barge pole.
Daresay you get the odd good one, hope your parents do, just wouldn’t bet my pension on it.
What's the issue with them? Is it a quality issue or just not enjoying driving them etc.?
Honest query as I've only driven them for a day at a time as loan cars from my indie. I've quite liked them in that context but obviously it's not the same as living with one.
I’ve had numerous DS’s as loan cars since they first came out. I’ve always found them to be good for what they are. A tad pricy, but all LR vehicles are.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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29th Mar 2020 5:38 pm
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29th Mar 2020 5:48 pm
J77
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Hated my DS with a passion still don’t like them, the whole interior feels like it was made from the plastic chocolate trays from a box of Milk Tray, the ride quality was awful, the car squeaked and rattled I’ve had a few since as loan cars and my opinion hasn’t changed.
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29th Mar 2020 5:55 pm
RRSTDV8
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The Dundonian wrote:
RRSTDV8 wrote:
The Dundonian wrote:
Sorry, but SWMBO had two DSs and they are s e cars. Wouldn’t touch one, even the new one, with a barge pole.
Daresay you get the odd good one, hope your parents do, just wouldn’t bet my pension on it.
What's the issue with them? Is it a quality issue or just not enjoying driving them etc.?
Honest query as I've only driven them for a day at a time as loan cars from my indie. I've quite liked them in that context but obviously it's not the same as living with one.
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Yikes, quite a list if one has had a few of those issues.
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On the whole, they haven’t a clue what off road means, let alone drive off road.
Everyone knows that in regards to cars, "off road" means "at the garage". And everyone knows LR are very good at "off road"... Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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29th Mar 2020 6:57 pm
LT
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J77 wrote:
Hated my DS with a passion still don’t like them, the whole interior feels like it was made from the plastic chocolate trays from a box of Milk Tray, the ride quality was awful, the car squeaked and rattled I’ve had a few since as loan cars and my opinion hasn’t changed.
My velar is suffering with corrosion on the brakes but apparently it’s not bad enough yet for a claim.
The brake problem was mentioned to me by main dealer technician. They’ve had a lot in with premature pitting and corrosion. Same applies to the XF as well apparently. He thought that although they were still Brembo, it was either a duff batch or they’d changed the composition.
Some part on the power steering system for the 2.0 is also rusting out and causing failure of the system. They, the main dealer, are replacing them under warranty, but as yet LR haven’t issued a safety recall. 😳2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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29th Mar 2020 7:25 pm
RRSTDV8
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Brake corrosion? Someone needs to take it for an Italian tune up... Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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29th Mar 2020 7:50 pm
LT
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You can, they’ll still corrode though. Totally unacceptable, but they are being replaced under warranty, at least at the dealership where my FFRR is currently stuck at.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
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29th Mar 2020 9:11 pm
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DSL wrote:
Haven’t heard much on the oil dilution issue for the D5, is it fixed or are LR still sweeping it under the carpet and blaming driving style?
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29th Mar 2020 9:31 pm
RRSTDV8
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Isn't the software fix just a change in how often it reports dilution? Not a change to how much dilution occurs.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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29th Mar 2020 9:37 pm
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I believe going back to the twin turbo setup fixed the problem? So best to avoid the single turbo cars then?
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30th Mar 2020 7:39 am
J77
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That’s the theory amongst dealers at least.
It could be the reason why all new Defender engines are twin turbo?23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
30th Mar 2020 9:44 am
garrycol
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So can I please confirm that while the last of the 3.0 SDV6 engines in the D4 was a sequential turbo with 180kw and 600nm, the first of the td6 engines in the D5s was a single turbo version of the 3.0V6 with 190kw and 600nm - while the later TD6 engines in the D5 was a sequential turbo version of the same engine with 225kw and 700nm?
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2nd Sep 2020 1:24 pm
bammmy
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Hello,
For info, I have a 2019 D5 with the SDV6, it’s a 306 bhp twin turbo as standard and drives like a dream. Not had any problems at all. I believe the single turbo TD6 did suffer with oil dilutions problems, whether it was a software glitch or actual dilution is open for debate. For me the SDV6 was the way forward. It was also the same engine in a D4 but that was a 255bhp version.
2nd Sep 2020 3:05 pm
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Yes, it looks like LR messed trying to put a single turbo engine in. Who knows why!
They should have just stuck with the twin turbo setup the D4 used, as per the newer D5s.
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