Staffie-mad
Member Since: 09 Apr 2022
Location: Birmingham
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Hiya all, was wondering whether anyone else had come across this, just had some 19" wheels back from refurb for my d4 and now I need some new boots, I'd got my eye on duratracs, failing that general grabbers, rang a local land rover independent near me who does a lot of tyres etc., only to be told he can't get them, they've now discontinued them due to something going on with goodyear, generals are apparently the same, and I'm told the only way I can get either is if someone has some on the shelf etc.
Was also told that because of the above situation you can bet your ass there will be a new model tyre released later in the year.
Anyone else struggling with tyres or know of a decent tyre duratrac supplier I can try in the west Midlands area??
TIA
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 10th Jan 2023 6:59 pm |
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TigerRecovery
Member Since: 31 May 2017
Location: Long Stratton, Norwich, Norfolk
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I know when I worked at JLR that any winter tyres had to be ordered the spring of the previous year as they only make them in a small window. 1972 Range Rover Classic 2 door V8
2013 Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE - SCRAPPED
2016 Land Rover Discovery 4 Landmark
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| 10th Jan 2023 7:03 pm |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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I've been looking around and note that the Grabber AT3 is rare online. The Pirelli AT+ is likewise rare as Pirelli no longer do the 255/55/r19 in the UK it seems.
Camskill appear to have the Duratrac if you want to order them:
https://www.camskill.co.uk/m55b0s13141p144...oise%3A_XC Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
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| 10th Jan 2023 9:48 pm |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
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ISTR Duratrac are now made by Avon and are cheaper, mate of mine had a set about 6 months ago.  It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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| 11th Jan 2023 10:56 am |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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That's odd as Avon are owned by Cooper.
And Goodyear are merged with Dunlop and also do Fulda and Falken tyres.
So unless they've contracted manufacture of the Duratecs "out of house" ..... but if so, why?
 ...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
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| 11th Jan 2023 11:28 am |
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Staffie-mad
Member Since: 09 Apr 2022
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 43
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The land rover independent who does tyres by me said something about goodyear selling out to Cooper don't know whether that was the duratrac as a design or whether he meant the actual company??
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| 11th Jan 2023 2:12 pm |
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Chris Hagain
Member Since: 14 Mar 2020
Location: Halifax
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Just had 4 Duratrac fitted yesterday by National tyres
Price £119.50 each fitted for the 255/50 R19
Ordered on monday fitted tuesday, according to staff plenty in stock Flat Dog Roof Rack & Prospeed Ladder
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| 11th Jan 2023 3:49 pm |
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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Goodyear purchased Cooper back in 2021. A snip at $2.8bn! 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
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| 11th Jan 2023 4:32 pm |
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Staffie-mad
Member Since: 09 Apr 2022
Location: Birmingham
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Right, I think iv tried every tyre place within a 25 Mike radius of me in the Midlands, most were like I can't get them or I ca only get one, but three places were like ye I can get em for tomorrow, dearest was £168 and the cheapest I've got em for is £135 fitted for tommorow so happy days, I did try national tyres by me and the still wanted £160 a tyre so if you got em for £119 mate you've had a steal
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| 11th Jan 2023 5:46 pm |
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kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
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ronp wrote:That's odd as Avon are owned by Cooper.
And Goodyear are merged with Dunlop and also do Fulda and Falken tyres.
So unless they've contracted manufacture of the Duratecs "out of house" ..... but if so, why?
Falken is a fully owned subsidiary of Sumitomo Rubber Industries. SRI also owns the branding rights for Dunlop Tyres in certain markets and with some vehicle brands while Goodyear owns the rights to use Dunlop Tyres in other markets (North America, Europe, etc.) subject to certain other conditions. So what really happened was that SRI and Goodyear had a joint venture (JV) setup but like most JVs it eventually failed. It’s like the one of the oldest stories in corporate M&A that JVs tend to be doomed from the start. If you’re really interested see the on the aftermath https://corporate.goodyear.com/us/en/media...ement.html. What makes things even more confusing is that Continental owns the rights to Dunlop Tyres in Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysia…. 
You’re correct that Goodyear purchased Cooper in 2021 which had purchased Avon before the turn of this millennium. Goodyear had acquired Fulda sometime in the 1960s.
I don’t think Goodyear itself produced Falkens, though, but the JV company probably did. The JV was named Goodyear Dunlop Tire North America to complicate things even more and maybe the confusion comes from SRI getting Dunlop Motorcycle Tires and the Goodyear branded plant (originally a real Dunlop plant that SRI had gotten when acquiring Dunlop Tire Corporation, kept the name and then contributed it to the JV) as part of the settlement when shutting down the North American JV. The US operation is now trading as Sumitomo Rubber USA..
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| 11th Jan 2023 7:26 pm |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8223
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 It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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| 11th Jan 2023 7:46 pm |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 15263
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……. and you failed to mention Nokian tyres ownership.
...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
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| 11th Jan 2023 11:35 pm |
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ash27
Member Since: 16 Jul 2020
Location: Hertfordshire
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Have you looked at Halfords?
I have just had 5 Duratracs fitted to my L322 as they had a discount code running with fitting.
For example standard 19 size:
Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac 255/55 R19 111Q FP XL £162.99 each fitted
10% off when you buy 2/3 tyres or 15% off 4 Enter code GOODALLYEAR at basket
I was changing to 18's so had those and my 20's that were on the car and they were happy to either fit and swap the wheels over or just fit the tyres and leave them in the car (if you don't want them playing with the car etc).
Might be worth a look.
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| 12th Jan 2023 9:38 am |
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Staffie-mad
Member Since: 09 Apr 2022
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 43
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I did come across halfords yesterday and up until I found them for £135 fitted they were the second cheapest at £144 fitted, but your right I didn't fancy a halfrauds employee playing with me car 
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| 12th Jan 2023 7:20 pm |
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