Now I no longer have to lift the body when changing tires, just the wheel.
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29th Nov 2022 8:28 am
Nasher
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Mmm, good luck with that, no where near enough positive engagement when the arm is at an angle for my liking.Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
29th Nov 2022 1:49 pm
grzesiul
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fully agree with Nasher looks risky as fuk
is it TUV approve not even close I guess
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I’ve been using that method for years without incident, I use a piece of wood instead of the ball It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
The ball (50mm) fits perfectly in the hutch. Since it is not the body but the wheel that is lifted, the lift is only a few centimeters!!! The height adjustment also remains in the middle or lower position! Thus, the suspension arm is almost horizontal. Once the LR3 is off the car lift I'll take some photos. BTW: Three braked wheels remain stable on the ground.
29th Nov 2022 7:33 pm
DIY Ace
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Does the suspension not auto-level or go into extended mode when it senses the weight lift off the wheel?2022 BMW i4 M50. Bought Oct 2022. 10,200 miles and counting...
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No, even master technician ‘Robby’ recommends this method It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
29th Nov 2022 8:04 pm
DIY Ace
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Thanks, I've never tried Jacking just one corner via the control Arms, I assumed and have always jacked up a front or side via the chassis rails and then axle stand. Boring just to change one wheel.
I'll try Jacking it via tha arm each in turn, next time 2022 BMW i4 M50. Bought Oct 2022. 10,200 miles and counting...
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Way back when I still worked for a LR main dealer, we always jacked up via the lower arm, either the large flat square part of the front lower arm or the shocker mounting of the rear. As said wheel off the ground only takes a inch of lift.
We had 4 post ramps so if only doing a couple of tyres who wants to waste time setting up a ramp.
29th Nov 2022 8:17 pm
Nasher
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I agree that jacking using the lower arm is good, I often do it myself.
I'm just not happy about the amount of contact the ball has in the shallow socket, especially if the arm is at an angle to the horizontal at all.
Just my opinion of course.
I will continue to lift that way using a large cup on the jack with the castellations that actually span the sides of the arm meaning it can't slip in any direction.Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.
29th Nov 2022 9:08 pm
M3DPO
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It is possible to lift the wheel off the ground with this method without a jack if the arm is supported with a block of wood or a small axel stand in the correct position on the arm and the suspension is put in access height the wheel will lift off the ground. don’t believe me?- below is an example, there are others.
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if the arm is supported with a block of wood or a small axel stand in the correct position on the arm and the suspension is put in access height the wheel will lift off the ground. 
