Why else do you think they all run around in supercars
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5th Apr 2020 10:03 am
Scott #55
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I thought they stuck to RRs?
My theory is backed up by the words of the salesman who sold me my D4 - "It's the thinking man's Range Rover". "Thinking man" tends to exclude most footballers.
Looking forward to more uninformed siundbite stereotyping later.2014 - D4 2010 HSE Nara Bronze
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5th Apr 2020 10:12 am
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Not sure why we are focussing on footballers, plenty out there who it may be perceived by many as earning obscene amounts of money.
Some will already be doing the right thing morally perhaps and contributing more privately, while others will be making hay out of the whole situation.
We are just at the beginning and many thousands across all sectors face complete ruin in the months to come. Let's just be hopeful that we might even manage to survive the consequences of this disaster however they touch us.21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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5th Apr 2020 10:37 am
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Scott- You’re right about D4. Unfortunately LR stopped making them, so now you have to buy a FFRR.
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5th Apr 2020 10:39 am
RRSTDV8
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The Dundonian wrote:
Maybe it’s time to reconsider the recompense of someone kicking about a pigs bladder about a field and the whole finance and organisation of football generally, somehow I doubt it will happen.
Fair point about MPs salary. Hypocrites, but nothing new their either.
Maybe society should be deciding who’s job important and who’s not in view of their crisis and remunerate them accordingly. Doubt that will happen either. When we come out of this, it will all be forgotten.
If someone wants to pay someone else a lot of money to kick a ball around, and others are happy to pay to watch them do so, fair enough. I dislike football but so long as they're not using taxpayers' money, good luck to them.
MPs' salaries and raises are now dealt with by a separate body (IPSA) rather than the MPs themselves, I think. So they're not directly to blame for their rise. It would be nice if they volunteered to hand the rise to a suitable charity during this crisis where so many are losing their income.
I agree wholeheartedly with your last paragraph. The City boys have been notably absent from anything useful, for example. A system that has been built to give lots of money to professional gamblers and shysters whilst paying the most useful people in society a pittance is wrong to the core. But it won't change, sadly. Canburne posted an interesting article elsewhere about this very thing and how the system in the US (which we also follow to a large degree) is basically broken. But it won't change because the powerful are in hock to the beneficiaries of the system.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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5th Apr 2020 11:47 am
RRSTDV8
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Scott #55 wrote:
I thought they stuck to RRs?
My theory is backed up by the words of the salesman who sold me my D4 - "It's the thinking man's Range Rover". "Thinking man" tends to exclude most footballers.
Wow, he really blew smoke up your there, didn't he. And you bought it... Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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5th Apr 2020 11:51 am
RRSTDV8
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LT wrote:
The importance of a job to society is rarely reflected in the wages it pays.
One might suggest that the importance is often inversely proportional to the remuneration.
Sure, some get paid more, such as doctors, but they're still on a lot less than the "celebs", sportsmen, etc.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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5th Apr 2020 11:55 am
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I cannot believe that a footballer or any of the other celebs, pop stars etc are paying the correct amount of tax on what they earn, they are all paying far far less in tax than what they ought to be.
All hospital staff are putting their lives on the line and are underpaid and stressed because they are under staffed.
Kicking a ball about earning 40k a week disgusts me.General Grabber AT3's
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5th Apr 2020 12:31 pm
Dusty
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Why not just furlough the players.
The club then make a gesture of paying the furlough payment and lost revenue to HMRC.
Win, win situation, the clubs are financially better off and the players have a peek at what it’s like living in the real world earning £2.5k a month.
I understand there are probably a couple of flaws, the players don’t have to work and could report back to training 2 stone overweight. And most of them are probably registered as PLC’s paying very good accountants to minimise what should be hefty tax bills, so probably not PAYE Discovery 4 HSE
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5th Apr 2020 12:50 pm
Scott #55
Member Since: 15 Apr 2015
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Scott #55 wrote:
I thought they stuck to RRs?
My theory is backed up by the words of the salesman who sold me my D4 - "It's the thinking man's Range Rover". "Thinking man" tends to exclude most footballers.
Wow, he really blew smoke up your there, didn't he. And you bought it...
And I’ve not regretted the decision for one second in the six years I’ve owned her. I'd have bought it anyway.2014 - D4 2010 HSE Nara Bronze
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5th Apr 2020 1:08 pm
Scott #55
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Just read an article on BBC News with an interview with Wayne Rooney about the football players' pay cut.
Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of the proposal - and I am making no judgement on it here - Rooney does make the point that there are plenty of sports stars who manage to become resident in tax havens and pay little tax in the UK. PFL footballers have little scope to be non-resident in the UK and will pay tax approaching 50% on most of their earnings (plus the club will pay Employer's NI), so perhaps it's not as straightforward as it seems.2014 - D4 2010 HSE Nara Bronze
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5th Apr 2020 1:31 pm
Mogwyth
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Dusty wrote:
Why not just furlough the players.
The biggest flaw is their contracts, legally the clubs have to pay them.
The problem with wages is supply and demand, if you are one of 400,000 (Nurses) qualified to do your job, then you are not going to be paid as much as one of only 800 (PL footballers) capable of doing your job. Couple that with the fact the average PL supporter is estimated to spend £1,888 a season supporting their team but I doubt they and most voters would vote to pay an extra £500 tax solely for the NHS although after this attitudes might change.==================================
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5th Apr 2020 1:34 pm
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Yes agree others who are paid very high wages either directly or indirectly by things like shares etc only the fact that the news said about Footballers rejecting a pay cut feel sorry for the ground staff, stewards & back room guys not on bug bucks which are losing out as well.
Not knocking people for getting big bucks but with the financial loss the supporters are going through it and other sports which are being priced out of reach for all not just corporate ticket buyers. Music industry prices to go to concerts and ticket touts taking advantage.Welsh Collie Chauffeur Service To Barney & Rooney.
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there, didn't he. And you bought it... 
feel sorry for the ground staff, stewards & back room guys not on bug bucks which are losing out as well.
