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Ref grease, copaslip is fine as is normal high meling point grease, what you dont to do is lube the sliders with copaslip as they tend to stick.
You will also find theres copaslip and then theres copaslip, some Im sure is just normal grease with copper powder particles mixed in.
I personally hate the stuff, its dirty sticks to everything you dont want it to!
10th Sep 2018 7:17 am
Bardley
Member Since: 02 May 2018
Location: Hertfordshire
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The key with anything is regular maintenance, and the increased times that manufacturers are quoting is being taken literally by the public as gospel.
Brakes are one item that need a look over once a year minimum. If copper based grease is what is to hand, then it will be fine on guide pins. Just don't expect it to perform like silicon grease.
Copper based is anti seize. It will do the job.
A key pointers in looking after brakes is to not power wash the calipers... I see the car wash capers doing it every day. Crazy.2011 MY D4 HSE
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10th Sep 2018 6:30 pm
omg!
Member Since: 01 Jun 2011
Location: Fife
Posts: 569
I have the V8 upgrade and recently changed to Delphi discs with yellow stuff pads on the front.
Even though I've had the V8 for quite a while the brakes are MUCH better than they were before, though I can't remember what they were.
Braking is progressive and very effective. I actually enjoy braking for the feedback and feeling of control I get. Yellow stuff pads are bloody expensive though!
10th Sep 2018 6:48 pm
J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
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Re: Pads
charlietortoise wrote:
No body mentioned Mintex? They were the performance brake of choice when I was young.
been through plenty of sets of M1144 and 1155 on various cars 2014 D4 XS
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10th Sep 2018 6:55 pm
highlands
Member Since: 11 Jan 2010
Location: NW Highlands
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If my D3 brakes last as long as the Statue of Liberty I'll be very happy!
If you have a steel bolt into ali I definitely wouldn't put copaslip on it, but on the mating surface between a brake caliper and brake pad either the ali will have a coating that insulates it already or there'd soon be a coating of ali-oxide. Either way I've found in the Highlands of Scotland a bit of copaslip works well for that application.
I use ceramic for the caliper sliders though.Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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10th Sep 2018 7:35 pm
highlands
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Bardley wrote:
If copper based grease is what is to hand, then it will be fine on guide pins. Just don't expect it to perform like silicon grease.
I haven't used it on sliders for a long time.
Partly because:
- it doesn't work all that well;
- on bikes it seems to elongate the hole a bit. although doubt I'd notice it on D3 brakes vs bike.Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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10th Sep 2018 7:39 pm
hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
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I'm sure they know what they are on about, but to use their example of an alloy wheel, i have had a wheel practically seized on the hub, then i started using copper anti seize compound and have never had a problem since. Yet they are saying the copper would make it worse, this is demonstrably not so.
Andi.
10th Sep 2018 8:11 pm
dgarside
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Just replaced my front discs/pads and used be Textar kit from Adv. Much better brake feel and much more progressive than previous discs/pads. Would certainly choose them again, although V8 upgrade is really interesting me 😉RLD CB Bracket
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10th Sep 2018 8:21 pm
gstuart
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If my D3 brakes last as long as the Statue of Liberty I'll be very happy!
If you have a steel bolt into ali I definitely wouldn't put copaslip on it, but on the mating surface between a brake caliper and brake pad either the ali will have a coating that insulates it already or there'd soon be a coating of ali-oxide. Either way I've found in the Highlands of Scotland a bit of copaslip works well for that application.
I use ceramic for the caliper sliders though.
Indeed , ref the Statue of Liberty
Used coppaslip for years and applying it to the back of the pads and edges of carrier
Guilty though of once using coppaslip on pins , then was advised to use the ceramic brake grease and indeed preferred that
10th Sep 2018 8:51 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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I'm sure they know what they are on about, but to use their example of an alloy wheel, i have had a wheel practically seized on the hub, then i started using copper anti seize compound and have never had a problem since. Yet they are saying the copper would make it worse, this is demonstrably not so.
Andi.
Totally agree as I always useto put smear of coppaslip round the inside of a wheel after having to use a block or wood and hammer to get a wheel off
With any article I think there’s the classroom version and real world version
10th Sep 2018 8:54 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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dgarside wrote:
Just replaced my front discs/pads and used be Textar kit from Adv. Much better brake feel and much more progressive than previous discs/pads. Would certainly choose them again, although V8 upgrade is really interesting me 😉
Hi and thks ref the textar , as I’ve been looking at either the Delphi or textar kit
Alas can’t to the V8 conversion because I have 17 inch wheels
In the spring time will replace discs and pads all round , inc front hoses
10th Sep 2018 8:57 pm
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
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lynalldiscovery wrote:
Ref grease, copaslip is fine as is normal high meling point grease, what you dont to do is lube the sliders with copaslip as they tend to stick.
You will also find theres copaslip and then theres copaslip, some Im sure is just normal grease with copper powder particles mixed in.
I personally hate the stuff, its dirty sticks to everything you dont want it to!
Hi mate
Do prefer the ceramic grease , wondering if it’s the same as ceratec ???
10th Sep 2018 9:01 pm
hugeviking
Member Since: 08 Jun 2010
Location: cotswolds
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I'm sure they know what they are on about, but to use their example of an alloy wheel, i have had a wheel practically seized on the hub, then i started using copper anti seize compound and have never had a problem since. Yet they are saying the copper would make it worse, this is demonstrably not so.
Andi.
Totally agree as I always useto put smear of coppaslip round the inside of a wheel after having to use a block or wood and hammer to get a wheel off
With any article I think there’s the classroom version and real world version
Update
I changed them today and went with EBC
One thing for those that are doing this for the first time if your warning light comes and tells you to check pads don't automatically think you need a front or rear sensor
I read quite a few threads and most stated once the light has tripped the sensor is worn through and your pads are 75% worn
Mine would have to be about 25 mm thick if want I was left with was 25%
Not so mine was intact and was about 5 mm off making contact
If fact I reckon I could have got another 6 months out of the pads
The supplier also told me this
I bought one on the stuff I read
Changed it anyway took as long as the pads as it's a proper pain getting it behind the under wing liner
Anyway no warning light
15th Sep 2018 10:27 pm
tomo47
Member Since: 11 Sep 2018
Location: Bridgend
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Just for consideration, I changed the discs and pads last year, was in a rush and used coppaslip on the slider pins and the pads cos it's all I had to hand.
I've just stripped them down again because they were squeaking, the sliders were proper seized on one side.
I've renewed the slider pins (which came with a sachet of silicone grease ) and re-assembled the brakes with this stuff, which I've been using recently - it doesn't seem to collect dust like coppaslip does....cheap enough too as GSF regularly offer discount codes.
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, ref the Statue of Liberty
, then was advised to use the ceramic brake grease and indeed preferred that 
