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Fuel Nozzles in France and misfuel trigger

Hi,

Just over in France - managed to get as far as a petrol station and started to fill up with diesel, but the nozzles are a different size so it triggered the misfuel protection cap.

Managed to work around it by filling up using the adapter for fuel containers and then filling up very slowly, but does anyone have a better way?
  
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What car are we talking about? Your profile is incomplete.

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Will fix my profile!

It’s a 2016 4 graphite
  
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never had that in France unless you filling up on lorry pumps ?
  
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Me neither, nozzles the same ISTR.
   
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It must have been gasoil put in the tank or the car would have ground to an inglorious halt by now. Hopefully not. Thumbs Up
   
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Felt like diesel, smelt like diesel!

Weird, thanks for the info. I’ve filled up the tank and done another 100km today, so fingers crossed for tomorrow now folks!

Let’s put it down to user error and hopefully next fill up will be easier….
  
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If you’ve done 100km then you’ll be fine, famous last words I know. Laughing Laughing

Could be garage had wrong nozzle fitted to the tank and just left it, less hassle for them and endless entertainment watching punters struggle to fill up. Thumbs Up
   
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You should have a white funnel which is designed to allow you to refuel from a fuel can.

Sounds like you may have used an HGV pump which allows a faster flow and has a different sized nozzle.
  
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Yep we had to use the funnel to get the fuel in! Because the nozzle kept cutting out it tools us about 10 mins to fill it up! Big Cry
  
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Lorry pump. Been there, done that etc.
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Why would a lorry pump cause an issue? Are French lorry nozzles smaller than a French car diesel nozzle? That would seem counterproductive when pumping large volumes of diesel.

The misfuel device is designed to activate if a ‘small’ petrol nozzle is inserted. Lorry pump nozzles, in Australia at least, are larger than a normal car diesel nozzle and cause no problems with my D4. The only difference for me is I need to hold the nozzle while refueling as it doesn’t ’hook’ into the filler neck. Truck diesel is cheaper around where I live so use them regularly.
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That was my interpretation... nozzle goes part way in then stops, so OP thinks the flap has operated.

If it had, surely the adapter funnel wouldn't get fuel into the tank?
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So to clarify it seems like there are two types of misfuel device on the D4, one is yellow and one is metallic.

The yellow one requires the fuel reset tool, the one I’ve got is the metallic one. I’ve never paid it any attention before now, but it seems the default for it is to be in a ‘closed state’. When you insert a wider nozzle (or the adapter) it just magically opens. Anything smaller than that, and it just stays shut.

The nozzle I was using was definitely smaller, it felt ‘loose’ around the pipe and just refused to allow it in!
  
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