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BrianX
 


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Gearbox calibration after replacement

Please correct me if I'm barking up the wrong tree but just before I got my D3 a few months ago it had a gearbox replacement. I've seen suggestions on here that say the gearbox should be recalibrated, and my IIDBT has the setting, but do I need to do this and what's involved? It's a TDV6 HSE Auto.

I plan to upgrade the power (remap via IID) and brakes (v8 version) but I want to know that the drivetrain is in good order before proceeding.
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Pete K
 


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If it's changing smoothly I would leave it.

Doing a re cal will mean it will change rough, for 3 days until it relearns


In any case the ecu is in the gearbox, so was replaced together, (though the new oil can make minor changes)
  
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BrianX
 


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Hi Pete, thanks for the reply.

I'd say it has the occasional lumpy change but nothing serious enough to warrant concern. I'm more bothered about what happens when I do the remap since the gearbox will be having to deal with higher torque, so I want it to be spot on beforehand.

Is the only effect that it will be lumpy for a few days? If so then I can live with that, what's actually involved other than telling IID to do the recal, I'd like to understand the process before I hit 'go'.
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It wipes all the Adaptive data the gearbox has learned over the past xx,xxx miles

Resetting will put the gearbox back to "as new/factory" with regards to this learned data
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Post #20728401st Aug 2019 6:03 pm
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BrianX
 


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so essentially I just tell IID to do the reset, put up with a lumpy change for a few days, and that's it?
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Yes.
  
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BrianX
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

cheers fellas. I guess there is just one more question and that's is there any reason why I shouldn't go ahead and do it?
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Finland 2005 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

The “Don’t touch it if it isn’t broken” doctrine is very valid on firmware upgrades and thinking about resetting things. Thumbs Up

(Your “new” gearbox probably isn’t “new-new” but reconditioned, right?)
  
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BrianX
 


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England 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

reconditioned - yes
reconditioned by somebody who knows what a landy is - I seriously doubt it

I went along with the previous owner to have the new box 'checked' a month after fitting. This involved the mechanic driving 200 yards up the road and back, then saying it was fine. As for the company who actually refurbed the box I have no idea.
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I have had some boxes, after resetting adaptions produce fault codes for slip on the clutches etc.
Which can be a real pain, as it goes into limp home.
After driving for a month or so, they usually adapt back in again.
It is obviously a fault in the box/worn, which the adaptions when relearnt can overcome.

... as said, if it ain’t broke... unless it’s annoying you on the change, don’t reset adaptions.

Regards
Steve
  
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They self adapt over time anyway.

The iid can just force it to start from scratch.
  
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