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 7th Jun 2009 11:43 am |
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ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
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i've converted many a family member and friend to mac from pc, just converting my 70 yr old FIL who has never used a computer before, found pc very frustrating, he's into week 2 now and loves it, downloads his photo's from his camera without having to install drivers, can go from his house to ours and not have to type in passwords and look for networks.
for everything that doesnt make sense on a pc, there is exactly the opposite on a mac that does make sense,
power is irrelevant as 99% of the population never get anywhere near the need for the amount of power available,
no one really mentioned the lack of virus's or pop-ups on mac either,,, they don;t date and will still be working in 5 years, my first mac lasted 7 years, sold it for 50% of what it cost me, dont reckon that's too shabby.
oh and by the way, CS3 is worth just as much as the computer....  so that's a 4k machine you got there.... 
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| 7th Jun 2009 3:32 pm |
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RPG
Member Since: 23 Feb 2009
Location: The End of the Earth (West Cornwall)
Posts: 712
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Microsoft and PCs pay for my D3 ...but I'd have a Mac (if price was not an issue). PC hardware is cheaper and faster then Mac (economies of scale) but PC software is less efficient then Mac  , so a lower spec Mac will often do just as good a job. You can virtualise a Windows OS onto it if you really feel the need. This is more the case if you use it for work and some of your work software uses Windows only. Personally, I run Windows 7 but you can't have that yet.  It's much, much better then Vista and a fair improvement on XP. I'd skip Vista. I don't see the point in it. The I.T. Industry does not see the point in it and given that almost the entire Microsoft Marketing Machine is now behind Windows 7 it appears Microsoft don't know the point of it, either. Also, Windows 7 includes a virtualised Windows XP, NOT Vista, system for backward compatibility, so Microsoft Product Development obviously don't know the point in Vista.
Besides, I learnt on Mac OS and SGi , so I'm always going to favour that stuff over a PC!
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| 7th Jun 2009 3:52 pm |
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bigcarpchaser
Member Since: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Camberley
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Why don't apple make them cheaper and get world domination? Welcome "Lola" 
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| 7th Jun 2009 4:33 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
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TazDaz wrote:Not sure I can live without a 'proper' mouse though - this touchpad with no buttons is very strange!
Run out and buy a wireless mighty mouse quickly - you'll wonder how you managed with just a 'proper mouse'!!!
(And like everything else - there's virtually no set-up - just turn it on and the mac will find it) 2005 D3 HSE
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| 7th Jun 2009 5:16 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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bigcarpchaser wrote:Why don't apple make them cheaper and get world domination?
Quality always costs... The design and even build quality on the new macbook pro's is well worth it. Let the kiddies with all their viruses and clunky software play with the cheap stuff. I say make them more expensive!!! 2005 D3 HSE
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| 7th Jun 2009 5:24 pm |
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ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
Posts: 4866
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Quote:Why don't apple make them cheaper and get world domination?
why don't aston martin/ ducati etc etc just make them cheaper and go for world domination........
for exactly the same reasons...
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| 7th Jun 2009 5:49 pm |
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Jambo
Member Since: 01 May 2008
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 196
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ad15 wrote:
no one really mentioned the lack of virus's or pop-ups on mac either,,,
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the term 'virus's'. Can somebody please explain
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| 7th Jun 2009 6:10 pm |
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James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Riyadh, KSA
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I've got an aluminum 17" macbook pro, a black macbook and and imac. On top of this, our two 'works' windows laptops cause nothing but hassle in comparison. BUT you do pay a premium. (No burglers reading this, right?)
If you like fiddling and tweaking, stick with windows. You can be a real fountain of knowledge with your mates when it comes to windows. But if you want things to 'just work' (and very nicely) get macs. But you do pay for the privilege!
They are a real pleasure to use though. Everything works together really well. But like I said, you use the apple apps, pay for what you need and don't cut corners.
James 
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| 7th Jun 2009 7:54 pm |
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DrLex
Member Since: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Ciderspace [Oi be in Zummerset]
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TazDaz wrote:[...]
BTW is it true you don't need AV software on a Mac?
Depends - if you use it as a Mac only, don't bother. If you're planning to use it occasionally as a Windows device on the internet, then it might be best to use an AV program - plenty of good free ones about; Malwarebytes' Anti-malware is an example.
Having said that, as yours appears to be a company device, I would have thought it'll be connected to a mixed Windows/Mac network and thus you'd be asked to install whatever corporate AV you have to run when booted as a Windows device.
FWIW, I've never seen any Mac viruses in 25 years of using them; there are a couple of Trojans that have been reported, either hidden as porn video codecs or in 'cracked' Adobe applications from torrent sites. Both require the user to enter the administrator password before they can work and are thus easily stopped. There have been cases of Macs acting as 'carriers' - an email containing a virus or other malware can be ineffective on a mac, but still active when forwarded to a PC. Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
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| 7th Jun 2009 9:40 pm |
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ad15
Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: up that tree
Posts: 4866
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jambo, i had to google the word "virus" to find out what they were
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| 7th Jun 2009 9:40 pm |
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Jambo
Member Since: 01 May 2008
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 196
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ad15 wrote:jambo, i had to google the word "virus" to find out what they were
 Not come across one in 14 years as a Mac user - totally new one on me
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| 7th Jun 2009 9:46 pm |
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RPG
Member Since: 23 Feb 2009
Location: The End of the Earth (West Cornwall)
Posts: 712
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Well, I used to think that a virus was a malicious piece of code that infected a (predominantly Windows) computer to wreak havoc on the system, but seeing as all of the virus reports I get come from customers, and a select few customers at that, I have had to update my view to: "Viruses are customers with nothing better to do then surf  websites" I'm not sure if that is an internationally recognised definition but it is mine 
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| 7th Jun 2009 10:27 pm |
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10forcash
Member Since: 09 Jun 2005
Location: Ubique
Posts: 16534
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I just call them 'tossers'
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| 7th Jun 2009 10:37 pm |
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cdodkin
Member Since: 18 Aug 2008
Location: Ex Pat Brit in California
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Here's an interesting little test you can do - go to www.miscrosoft.com, and type the word VIRUS into their website search window..
384,000 results!
same search on Apple.com
207 results..
Nuff said - love my Macs 08 LR3 SE V8 - 02 D2 SE7 V8
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| 8th Jun 2009 7:02 am |
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