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LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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Just my opinion, but I think the D5 styling suits the smaller DS so much better.  2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography (now semi-retired)
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 12th Sep 2021 3:49 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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SD1 wrote:Do you have any idea how much it costs and the time it takes to charge up the battery, perhaps overnight
John
It's about 5.5 hours on a conventional 3 pin... just over 2 hours on 7.2kw and about 20 minutes on a rapid charger
I'm having a 7.2kw charger unit installed at my house next week. The overnight tariff is 4p per KW so if my maths serves me right a full charge is around 60p ...or on normal tariff, it's around £2.10 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 12th Sep 2021 5:51 pm |
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SD1
Member Since: 10 Sep 2018
Location: Buckinghamshire
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And also please, what is the typical range on electric
Thanks John
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| 12th Sep 2021 9:15 pm |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50978
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33 -35 miles in my experience 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 12th Sep 2021 9:26 pm |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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ruben wrote:J77 wrote:.. If my Defender keeps going up in value I might be tempted, it’s currently valued at £3k more than I paid.
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I can't understand such a thing!!
I've been needing to replace my D3 for a while, I really like the Defender but I don't assimilate the f****ing fortune it costs, I really don't understand it, I don't understand it, that's why I continue with the D3, there's nothing on the market that seduced me ... it is a total disaster ... will I have to wait 3 years for the defender of approved to have a decent and logical price? or maybe, because of what J77 says , that won't happen ...😡… also, there is another problem, I would like the 90, and I don't know if it could live with a Lamborghini-type rear trunk !!
…by now , I will continue going to the geriatrician mechanic and paying for the health ailments of D3!!! 🤪
SORRY OFF TOPIC!!
The bubble will burst at some point, but at the moment dealers over here are asking crazy prices. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 13th Sep 2021 6:00 am |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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ruben wrote:
…by now , I will continue going to the geriatrician mechanic and paying for the health ailments of D3!!! 🤪
SORRY OFF TOPIC!!
The thing is that it's a perfectly reasonable course of action. We live in a "buy/rent it, use it a bit, replace it with shiny new, repeat" society. If you have a vehicle that meets all of your needs and can be kept running nicely for reasonable cost, keeping it is a good idea. Yes, we want the "shiny new" but it's usually a more expensive option. Just the depreciation of a new vehicle will pay to keep an old one on the road for a decent period. Add in that the replacements might not do everything your old one does, and the decision is easier. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 13th Sep 2021 7:47 am |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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The main reason for the 2nd hand price increases is that you can't get a new build at the mo due to the chip shortage...my DS took six months ...and I was lucky as they pulled production soon after. 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 13th Sep 2021 8:14 am |
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MJA
Member Since: 08 Jul 2021
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 85
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RRSTDV8 wrote:ruben wrote:
…by now , I will continue going to the geriatrician mechanic and paying for the health ailments of D3!!! 🤪
SORRY OFF TOPIC!!
The thing is that it's a perfectly reasonable course of action. We live in a "buy/rent it, use it a bit, replace it with shiny new, repeat" society. If you have a vehicle that meets all of your needs and can be kept running nicely for reasonable cost, keeping it is a good idea. Yes, we want the "shiny new" but it's usually a more expensive option. Just the depreciation of a new vehicle will pay to keep an old one on the road for a decent period. Add in that the replacements might not do everything your old one does, and the decision is easier.
Wise words. I have long felt this way and tend to buy older and keep them running on some of what a couple of new shiney cars would cost on the monthlies. I'm usually quids in to be fair each month with no finance payments but 5 cars to maintain/restore still costs, however the massive plus side for me is that I have a load of value remaining in the car when I come to sell it. Land Rover(s) : '10 Discovery 4
Other daily: '13 Seat Exeo ST 170
Toys: '95 VW Corrado VR6 | '96 VW Golf GTI 16v | '91 VW Golf GTI 16v
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| 13th Sep 2021 8:38 am |
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ruben
D3 Decade
Member Since: 26 Sep 2006
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DG wrote:The main reason for the 2nd hand price increases is that you can't get a new build at the mo due to the chip shortage...my DS took six months ...and I was lucky as they pulled production soon after.
Well, it may be the explanation, but it doesn't happen in the rest of the range, and it also happens, perhaps more, in the "old defender" ... which I don't understand either, even though it is already a cult car! lost in translation!
DISCOVERY 3 SE man. TDV6 2006, my true love!
DEFENDER 2 SE D I6 MHEV 2024, other live.
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| 13th Sep 2021 9:32 am |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
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This month LR were due to build 36k vehicles, that's now down to 14k due to the component shortage with all build focus being on FFRR, RRS and Duffender .....so prices of 2nd hand are reflecting this.
The same applies with Toyotas on our fleet. They are roughly £3k higher than where they should be at this point. 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 13th Sep 2021 11:11 am |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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ruben wrote:DG wrote:The main reason for the 2nd hand price increases is that you can't get a new build at the mo due to the chip shortage...my DS took six months ...and I was lucky as they pulled production soon after.
Well, it may be the explanation, but it doesn't happen in the rest of the range, and it also happens, perhaps more, in the "old defender" ... which I don't understand either, even though it is already a cult car!
September 2022 is the expected delivery for a 90HT if ordering now. My spec with D200 forget it, no chance of getting one. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 13th Sep 2021 10:13 pm |
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J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
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I tried to order a new DS in June, to be told I might have it by February 2022. MIGHT.
Not a risk I wanted to take as that's skiing holiday time! 2014 D4 XS
2005 D3 SE - Gone
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| 14th Sep 2021 11:03 am |
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J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
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Been offered a demo in one, might take up the offer.
Dealer said it’s a 6 month wait, at the moment, for a factory order. Looking at the R-Dynamic HSE. 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
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| 10th Nov 2021 8:12 pm |
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