r6demon
Member Since: 09 Oct 2012
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Hi guys we have a 2012 sDV6 D4 60k miles FSH 8 speed but we are finding that it hesitated when pulling away from junctions or small increases in throttle hesitate and then force a down change of gears as opposed to just using the torque of the engine?
The gearbox hasn’t been flushed as yet?
We don’t have any fault codes and the dealer says that it’s normal, but it doesn’t feel right?
Any suggestions?
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 21st Jun 2020 8:50 am |
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Moo
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Its a known issue. There was a software update. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
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| 21st Jun 2020 9:28 am |
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dewillia
Member Since: 04 Aug 2019
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Just get it mapped and sorted
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| 21st Jun 2020 3:51 pm |
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dewillia
Member Since: 04 Aug 2019
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Just get it mapped and sorted
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| 21st Jun 2020 3:51 pm |
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r6demon
Member Since: 09 Oct 2012
Location: Cambridge
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Moo wrote:Its a known issue. There was a software update.
Thank you! Is there a way of finding out more info? Can I take it to a main dealer or check if it’s been done?
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| 21st Jun 2020 6:13 pm |
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RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
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I have the same problem, put your foot down on the gas pedal and you get nothing, nothing, nothing then suddenly your away like a rocket
Bit scary at junctions sometimes but early Freelander 2 SD4 engines 2011-2013 have the same problem and it has never been fully diagnosed or cured despite various attempts by LR, remapping, throttle body swaps etc.
Does anyone have the details of the software update please and ill go to my local dealer as soon as I can to ask.
TIA
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| 22nd Jun 2020 6:53 am |
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DrRobH
Member Since: 10 Oct 2015
Location: Hampshire
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Firstly, get any fault codes read to get an idea of what might be going on.
For remaps, take it to Alive Tuning in Louth or Bell Auto Services in nr York and it will come out a different motor. I'd do that over a main dealer all day long. They'll get rid of the lag and release a little more torque out of it. Visitor from fullfatrr.com
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| 22nd Jun 2020 7:05 am |
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r6demon
Member Since: 09 Oct 2012
Location: Cambridge
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dewillia wrote:Just get it mapped and sorted
What map did you use?
I think i'd prefer a fix as opposed to a work around if possible?
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| 22nd Jun 2020 7:31 am |
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r6demon
Member Since: 09 Oct 2012
Location: Cambridge
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RogB wrote:I have the same problem, put your foot down on the gas pedal and you get nothing, nothing, nothing then suddenly your away like a rocket
Rog
Yes that sounds JUST like it!
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| 22nd Jun 2020 7:31 am |
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Kimi
Member Since: 26 Mar 2013
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Is it possible to apply the SW update with IID Tool or is it a dealer only update?
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| 22nd Jun 2020 12:49 pm |
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r6demon
Member Since: 09 Oct 2012
Location: Cambridge
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DrRobH wrote:Firstly, get any fault codes read to get an idea of what might
There are no fault codes showing according to the dealer??
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| 23rd Jun 2020 8:08 am |
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grzesiul
Member Since: 11 May 2008
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if gearbox responses are too slow for you put it in sport mode for town driving it is much quicker on take off
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| 23rd Jun 2020 8:28 am |
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NJSS
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IMHO Avoid main dealers whenever you can, & go to a good indy.
BAS remap is excellent.
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| 23rd Jun 2020 8:49 am |
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r6demon
Member Since: 09 Oct 2012
Location: Cambridge
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grzesiul wrote:if gearbox responses are too slow for you put it in sport mode for town driving it is much quicker on take off
It’s the same issue in sport mode (I’m fact worse!), you press the accelerator nothing happens and then whoosh it takes off!
It’s as though the throttle cable is getting stuck and then suddenly releasing (I know this is fly by wire but that’s the easiest way of describing the issue) 
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| 23rd Jun 2020 9:10 am |
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RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
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I did read that in some cases the throttle potentiometer could be at fault but I don't think there is a definitive cure for it.
once ive got full service, diff and TB oils done, followed by MOT then gearbox flush.... im hoping ill have enough cash left for an Alive remap. After 110k it wont hurt just to freshen up things and recalibrate the electronics a bit 2011 D4 XS 305 MY12 - gone but not forgotten
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| 23rd Jun 2020 10:07 am |
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