Frans@yamorna
Member Since: 20 Jan 2010
Location: Tzaneen
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Has anybody had their injectors cleaned and was it worth the money and efford?
A local workshop offers a service whereby they chemically clean the injectors and feul system on petrol and diesel engines.A friend had the injectors on his Ford F250 cleaned in this way before our Nam trip with good results.Better feul consumption and less smoke.
The product that they use is FORTRON,made in Australia.
Anybody know this product?
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 4th Sep 2010 11:35 am |
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PSC
Member Since: 01 May 2006
Location: Johannesburg
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You may find someone who knows the product(s) on Aus & NZ forum
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| 4th Sep 2010 11:52 am |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
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Hi Frans,
My dealer, in Sydney, adds FORTRON engine flush at every service. As it's so frequent, I can't say how effective it is, but the engine is sweet (at 80k km).
Best Wishes,
Peter The Bearded Dragon
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| 4th Sep 2010 9:16 pm |
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Frans@yamorna
Member Since: 20 Jan 2010
Location: Tzaneen
Posts: 109
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Hi Pete,
By engine flush do mean the oil or do they add it to the feul?The FORTRON that this shop use specify on the can"not to be added to the tank".They connect a machine to the feul line and pump this cleaning stuff through the whole feul system,pump,lines and injectors....while the engine is running.
So this probably not the same item.
Regards,
Frans
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| 5th Sep 2010 10:17 am |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
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Hi Frans,
I can't answer you directly, but suspect that it is this product:
http://www.fortron.com.au/products.php?cat_id=2&prod_id=11
I'll chat with them at the next service in a couple of weeks. (I do know that shortly after I bought my D3, in country NSW, the injectors needed to be replaced under warranty).
Best Wishes,
Peter The Bearded Dragon
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| 6th Sep 2010 11:00 pm |
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Frans@yamorna
Member Since: 20 Jan 2010
Location: Tzaneen
Posts: 109
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Hi Pete,
Thanks for the link.The product is shown further down under Service Kits,and is 'Injector Max Diesel RTG'They state it is compatable with all diesel systems.The local guy servicing with this product is non-LR and can not hook his machine into the Disco's feul system.I have the fiter whith the 4 pipes.He needs a feed and return.Any ideas how he should do it?
Thanks,
Frans
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| 7th Sep 2010 6:17 am |
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D4JWW
Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
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Frans, why do what to use it, any problems with your D3 and what km,s has it done, obviously SA fuel not the best, but is it worth the it?
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| 7th Sep 2010 12:11 pm |
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Frans@yamorna
Member Since: 20 Jan 2010
Location: Tzaneen
Posts: 109
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As you know,our feul is not the best.My D3 has done 94000km,and has a slight miss at startup when cold.It is very heavy on feul when cold.........heavier than my petrol car.It just seems to take longer to normalise starting from cold.The advice from diesel shops is to start looking at cleaning the injectors and feul system when approaching 100000k's,as a preventative measure,taking into account our feul quality in this part of the world.
The car does not smoke and feels fine when at normal operating temp.
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| 7th Sep 2010 1:36 pm |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
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Hi Frans,
Thanks for the clarification. 
Unfortunately, I can't answer re the machine connections. I'll ask service when I'm next there.
Best Wishes,
Peter The Bearded Dragon
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| 8th Sep 2010 12:13 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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Frans I have similar symptoms with my D3 with 115,000km, but only when really cold. I found that using the 50ppm diesel makes a difference. Also, watch your glow-plug light when you start - wait till it turns off and then start - does it run smooth then? Mine does - is it perhaps a glowplug issue rather than injectors?
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| 8th Sep 2010 3:00 am |
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Frans@yamorna
Member Since: 20 Jan 2010
Location: Tzaneen
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Anthony,it could very well be a glowplug not performing.My car does it every time starting from cold.Tzaneen is not cold and it sleeps inside.I always wait for the christmastree to extinguish before starting.Car is going to the stealers as there is a suspension problem as well.I prefer to indicate to them where where the fault is,as I haven't got much faith in them finding faults.If there computer does not tell them what to do,they are not to sharp!!Will let you know what happens.
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| 8th Sep 2010 5:00 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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Mine is in next week for routine service. Will chat to the techies and see if they can help
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| 8th Sep 2010 5:48 am |
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bearman
Member Since: 04 Sep 2008
Location: East London
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had the rough cold start issue at around 100 000kms. Every third/fourth tank I now add redex diesel additive, and stick to 50ppm where possible - problem solved.
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| 9th Sep 2010 2:49 pm |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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Having read up on Redex and 2-stroke usage on this forum as well as freel2, I am gonna try the 2-stroke (semi-synthetic JASCO FC or ISO L-E GC or GD)
will revert with comment after a few km
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| 10th Sep 2010 8:26 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
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Well after a couple hundred km driving it hard with the two stroke added, I am impressed. Much less smoke, better idle, smooth starting. Is it my imagination? Look it's also warmer this week, so maybe that helps with the starting, but the engine even sounds different - I can actually hear some tone from the exhaust now.
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| 12th Sep 2010 7:34 am |
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