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747_JK
Member Since: 03 Apr 2010
Location: Surrey
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Very similar - its triggered by hard acceleration, usually when pulling away from standstill... When I say hard I dont mean stupid foot flat on the floor stuff being really aggressive, just getting moving pretty promptly. Accelerate hard at 40 to overtake, or on the motorway, and no smoke. 747_JK
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 24th Jun 2010 9:13 pm |
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Winger
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Sounds quite normal to me. The diesel you are using and the style of other driving will make a difference. I'd not be overly concerned; the dealer has looked at it, and given it a clean bill of health. If there was something wrong, there'd be smoke all the time - which you don't have.
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| 25th Jun 2010 7:17 am |
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adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
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I was trying to get mine to smoke yesterday whilst driving to Bristol - normally, I'm not at all aggressive - gradual acceleration ect - could only see a cloud of smoke when I really booted it, normal acceleration – nothing.
I remember talking to TFC ages ago about a re-map and smoking – his response - all diesels smoke if you drive them like a petrol engine – i.e. snap on the throttle rather than a smooth progressive build up.
As said before, could get my D3 to smoke if I booted it, ditto for D4 – seem the same to me
Also, engines that burn oil have a distinct burnt smell to the exhaust fumes vs. normal diesel smell
747 - not really sure what you have to worry about TBH - maybe your BM did it and you never noticed - I've had diesels since 1994 and could always get them to smoke if I wanted to - one Vauxhall I had used to smoke so much on start up that you literary could not see it - THAT would be something to worry about - needed new valves and seals
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| 25th Jun 2010 7:38 am |
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Russell
Member Since: 24 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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Gents
must disagree slightly with your comments.
Diesels do tend to smoke a little when you boot them especially if you have been poodling along, but this smoke tends to be dark grey. The smoke I am expieriencing and 747, is blue and there is a slight oil loss. As already stated LR are aware of the issue and have issued a note stating that they have a problem with the 3.0L engine in D4's and RRS. They are currently investigating the issue but have already replaced both turbos on one car in Australia which cured the issue straight away, it was also noted when they removed the turbo, there was a film of oil inside coating the inside. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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| 25th Jun 2010 2:21 pm |
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Winger
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Russel, you may have a different issue. Mr 747 say:
747_JK wrote:Accelerate hard at 40 to overtake, or on the motorway, and no smoke.
If oil was getting in somewhere, you'd get smoke all the time. I would still suggest that he has nowt wrong.
On oil usage, and very different from the D3, mine has used not a drop of oil since I took delivery.....or, that's what the guage tells me.
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| 25th Jun 2010 4:30 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 24 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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You may be right, not sure but LR have put out a bulletine stating there is a potential issue with one or both turbos, this has been further proved by the one in Aus with the same issue, now fixed with two new turbos. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
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D4 camera club
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| 25th Jun 2010 6:35 pm |
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Winger
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Location: UK
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Not sure what bulletin you are referring to, but there is nothing on GTR (or, I should say TOPIx)
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| 25th Jun 2010 8:37 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Replacment turbo is part of the PQ (or whatever it is) update TSB. It has a failing solenoid. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
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| 26th Jun 2010 1:52 am |
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Winger
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I'm easily confused, but if you mean the QA programme turbo solenoid replacement, that has nothing to do with smoke, replacing a turbo etc. All that is done, and anyone could do it themselves, is to replace a small actuator solenoid, which in some cases was sticking and causing both restricted performance and a warning light.
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| 26th Jun 2010 8:24 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Here some are having the whole turbo replaced not just the solenoid. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 26th Jun 2010 8:40 am |
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adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
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Winger - agree - D3 ate oil for first 15K - D4 - tame
747 - if you are worried - keep pushing dealer - new cars are supposed to give pleasure, not pain 
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| 26th Jun 2010 4:23 pm |
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