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Need a mobile soak-away then! shame there isn't some kind of tray that you can stand the car on while you wash it which can then be pumped in to a waste water container that you can then dispose of in the "required" manner.
We're not allowed to wash our vans in the yard at work because we don't have a soakaway. 2014 D4 XS
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15th Dec 2009 5:06 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
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This is utter madness ! I really cannot believe that this is what the world is coming to. Feel sorry for you JKP.
Has anyone told Mr Clarkson about this, I am sure he would have something to say
15th Dec 2009 5:19 pm
DG Site Moderator
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It seems that an individual can wash their motor 7 days a week unhindered (at present) but if John comes along in his van to do the job properly then the rules kick in 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
15th Dec 2009 5:30 pm
Frapp
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So, how cum you can still clean your own car on your drive but someone else can't
I've f g heard it all now
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15th Dec 2009 5:30 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
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I've Googling for any info on these regulations, and can't find anything about mobile valets. Have you got a link JKP?
15th Dec 2009 5:32 pm
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15th Dec 2009 5:40 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
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Ah
Forgot, you have a Phd in Googletronics 8)
15th Dec 2009 5:42 pm
jkp
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Thats the ACOP version of the legisaltion. i.e this is what they 'suggest' to comply and if you cannot prove you are doing it then .....
15th Dec 2009 5:44 pm
Frapp
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Just nicked this bit from EA
This guidance also applies to washing and cleaning plant, machinery, equipment and boats as the principles
are generally the same. It doesn’t cover household activities but our good practice advice would be to use a
commercial facility (car wash) that re-uses water, or hand wash with a bucketful of water and a sponge without
using detergent, traffic film removers, degreasants or other proprietary cleaners. We discourage the use of
hose-pipes or high pressure cleaners for car washing at home.
Plain old water & a sponge then tw4tsMember of the carrot crank club
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D4 Landmark for towing duties
Well, to be fair there is a reason - its all to do with waste management, potential chemical pollution of water supplies, rivers etc and simply to stop making a complete and unsightly mess of the pavement and road...
Yes it can be a PITA. But one that makes sense now that I've been exposed to since living in a country that takes this approach.
We no longer have public jet-washes now, simply due to the waste management and disposal of chemicals.
(I still sometimes hose down my D3 outside my house and shovel the mud up over the course of a few days.... )The next American ex-pat that calls it a "truck" is going to find out what 2.7 tons feels like on their foot...
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15th Dec 2009 5:57 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
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So, who's next. Window cleaners perhaps
15th Dec 2009 5:59 pm
J@mes
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Behave JF, I bet every car in the country would have to be being washed at the same time to make any difference to the water supply. 1 cap full of shampoo to 100 litres of hose water. I probably poison the planet more by washing my hair, but there isn't a rule against that.
It's called raising your head above the parapet and doing things properly in this country. The first people to shoot you down are the public sector.
You could do this stuff 'cash in hand' and nobody would ever be any the wiser. As soon as you try to be legitimate about it with a bona-fide business, VAT registration, tax-paying, do-it-right attitude, they will come along and impose everything they can upon you in the name of the greater good. Just to keep some jobsworth who's never had a job that wasn't paid for by the treasury in employment. The private sector are f d every time.
I've dealt with SEPA in the past and what a pathetic shower they were. When I had a couple of petrol stations, a new rule came out that I needed a license for 'vapour recovery'. This was a system which I'd had on the site for years but when the legislation came out, it had to be licensed. I duly paid for this additional tax license and received a bit of paper. Months later, a young female graduate appeared from SEPA requesting to see my license. I didn't have it to hand, but I promised to look it out for her. I was met with a response that if I didn't produce it there and then she could prevent me from trading that day until I found it.
She then produced a copy of MY LICENCE from her brief-case and said - "This is what it looks like"...........
She wasn't there to check if I had such a license, as she already new I'd paid for it and she had a copy with her. She just wanted to see my original document and threatened to close my site there and then if I didn't produce it.
Ten years ago, she was being paid £25k+ to drive round the country visiting businesses to look for bits of paper which she already had in her car with her.
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15th Dec 2009 6:03 pm
PaulP
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JF Lux wrote:
(I still sometimes hose down my D3 outside my house and shovel the mud over next door's fence over the course of a few days.... )
These bloody ex-pats have no respect for anyone outside of their own country
JMC - that really is scary It's like making you pay taxes and then using that money to pay someone to ask you to prove that you have paid them....2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE AutoBuckingham Blue 2007 Golf GT DSG
Yep, no washing cars in Holland, you have to go to a car wash with proper waste traps.
Same in most parts of Europe. Something to do with the watertable being nearer the surface in alot of places.LRs are a fond memory, apart from the maintenance.
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