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DSL
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ronp wrote:
Agree with the D3 comments; it was certainly a more emotive experience when buying from new than the D4 was.
But the D4 is more evolved and therfore a better vehicle than the D3 was.


Re D3 & D4, I never really felt at home/bonded with my D4 in the same way as my D3. If I was going anywhere, and the D3 was all in one piece, I’d usually take the D3. The D4 was like a new stiff pair of shoes, the D3 like old well worn trainers. The D4 was totally reliable so big, big improvement there, the D3 had its own place in the dealer’s workshop, however I miss the D3, not the D4.
   
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Funny isn’t it how folks opinions vary. I never took to the D3 when it launched, felt much the same about it as many do now about the D5.

Yet when the D4 came along, it rang my bells, hence the change from D2s.

Wouldn’t the world be boring if we were all the same. Thumbs Up
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Now departed: '85 RR Vogue, '94 D1, '95 D1, '70 SIIA, '97 D1, '04 D2a. All V8, except for the SIIA - but that drank as much petrol anyway! 
 
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The 'new' Evoque seems to answer the "it's not a Range Rover", SWMBO has a new First Edition and compared directly to her outgoing HSE it is just 'better' all round, seems much smoother and quieter too with same powertrain.

She likes the Velar but it is just 'too big' really and the Evoque now nicely plugs that gap of premium/small'ish Thumbs Up

My son has a Velar P250 and loves the car but not the engine, only had choice of a D180 or the P250 at that time and whilst it goes well and is smooth it drinks fuel (he is only 24 though so may press the go pedal a bit harder than some....). I think the D240 is the sweet spot engine as an all-rounder
  
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DSL wrote:
ronp wrote:
Agree with the D3 comments; it was certainly a more emotive experience when buying from new than the D4 was.
But the D4 is more evolved and therfore a better vehicle than the D3 was.


Re D3 & D4, I never really felt at home/bonded with my D4 in the same way as my D3. If I was going anywhere, and the D3 was all in one piece, I’d usually take the D3. The D4 was like a new stiff pair of shoes, the D3 like old well worn trainers. The D4 was totally reliable so big, big improvement there, the D3 had its own place in the dealer’s workshop, however I miss the D3, not the D4.


I feel the same. I miss my D3. Crying or Very sad
 D4 HSE (Known as Gerty) Mods in progress

No longer the Old Buses original owner Sad
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control 
 
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DSL wrote:

Re D3 & D4, I never really felt at home/bonded with my D4 in the same way as my D3. If I was going anywhere, and the D3 was all in one piece, I’d usually take the D3. The D4 was like a new stiff pair of shoes, the D3 like old well worn trainers. The D4 was totally reliable so big, big improvement there, the D3 had its own place in the dealer’s workshop, however I miss the D3, not the D4.

Same with my RRSs. I miss my old TDV8 even though the SDV6 has been absolutely fine so far (gearbox annoyance notwithstanding). By the time my TDV8 had got to 85k miles, it had had a fair list of stuff done to it where the SDV6 has had lower arms and that's it, I think, at the same mileage.

But I do miss the TDV8. Embarassed
 Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8 
 
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Pelyma
  


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You can’t beat cylinders Thumbs Up
 DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S 
 
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astonbuilder wrote:
The 'new' Evoque seems to answer the "it's not a Range Rover", SWMBO has a new First Edition and compared directly to her outgoing HSE it is just 'better' all round, seems much smoother and quieter too with same powertrain.

She likes the Velar but it is just 'too big' really and the Evoque now nicely plugs that gap of premium/small'ish Thumbs Up

My son has a Velar P250 and loves the car but not the engine, only had choice of a D180 or the P250 at that time and whilst it goes well and is smooth it drinks fuel (he is only 24 though so may press the go pedal a bit harder than some....). I think the D240 is the sweet spot engine as an all-rounder


Agreed, the new Evoque is a massive step forward.

I can’t fault the D240, it can shift when it needs to. 500Nm of torque compared with 430 on the D5
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Pelyma
  


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You should try 850 Nm.
 DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S 
 
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LT
 


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Although sadly not available on a new Cayenne.😟
 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) 18" Compomotive PD1881 rims. 
 
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Pelyma
  


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No Big Cry but I can enjoy it for the next few years, maybe longer. Sadly the updated engine is being used by Audi, that would be a beast.
 DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S 
 
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LT
 


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According to my Cayenne owning friend, who’s not necessarily right, the new 3.0L petrol engine in the 2019 Cayenne, with the sport chrono package, is quicker 0-60 than his old V8 diesel although it has less than half the NM’s.
 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) 18" Compomotive PD1881 rims. 
 
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Pelyma
  


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He’s talking Censored , the 3.0 with chrono package is 5.9 to 62 and mine is 5.4, but it is the torque that makes the engine and is an awesome tow car. The 2.9 engine with chrono package is 4.9 to 62 which was the first one I drove and was a bit of a shock after the D4 Laughing
 DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S 
 
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LT
 


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He’s claiming 5.6 secs for the V6 (chrono pack) versus 5.7 secs for the 2013 4.2 V8 diesel.

All a bit “academic” anyway. IMO, if you want a fast car don’t buy a tall, heavy SUV. 👍
 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) 18" Compomotive PD1881 rims. 
 
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Pelyma
  


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That isn't the same version as mine, like all these things they improve over time.

To be fair I wasn't expecting to like the Cayenne, I knew I didn't want to have the hassle of LR dealers (I would have bought a RRS) but a good friend recommended I had a look. Test drove a new one but couldn't afford a new one with all the extras I wanted so I looked second hand. I took my wife to look at one, she much preferred the firmer ride and the rest was history Laughing Its not a Land Rover, but then the dealerships aren't Land Rover either. It tows well and it eats motorways for breakfast far more comfortable than my D4 which was a great car too and when you open the taps Whistle Cool
 DS3 TDV6 HSE - Silver with Alpaca (old one) Gone
DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S 
 
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