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Go on enlighten me, why do you need them?Series 1 V8
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3rd Feb 2021 1:40 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23337
Trailered Movements wrote:
With or without a pouch, the microwave is a good place to keep overnight.
Dave
If you have one! 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
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Disklabs are certainly not the cheapest, but seem to have excellent reviews & a good range of products.
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2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
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1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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3rd Feb 2021 1:54 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
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^ 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
Presuming you mean Faraday pouch and not microwave?
Stops scrotes stealing keyless entry cars using signal repeaters..
Dean
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2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
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If you need to test your RFID shielding device the Mission Darkness Faraday Bag testing app accesses your WiFi, Cell and bluetooth antennas to test the shielding effectiveness of your faraday bag or faraday enclosure.
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NJSSAm I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
There are 10 types of people in this world: Those who understand binary, and those who don’t.
3rd Feb 2021 2:59 pm
SN
Member Since: 03 Jan 2006
Location: Romiley
Posts: 13710
So why exactly do these bags fail and therefore why do they need testing? Are they not passive?
This is a forhcoming problem for me. Currently carkeys hang on a hook in my kitchen (a long way from any long pole hookability attack) but when my new keyless-entry one turns up it will be parked on the drive not 8 feet (as the crow flies up 6 feet and through the house wall) from the aforementioned hook and so will be vulnerable to the repeater attackSteve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
3rd Feb 2021 3:18 pm
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1520
Quote:
So why exactly do these bags fail and therefore why do they need testing? Are they not passive?
I think it's because they have a coating (metallic??) on the inside fabric which turns them into a faraday pouch rather than just a fabric pouch. Every time the keys go in and out they wear the coating a little, which eventually renders them just 'fabric pouches with some coating inside'.
Just take the whole pouch out to the car every now and then and see if car opens without taking the key out. Normally come in pairs (or at least I recommend you buy in pairs , to keep your spare key elsewhere). This will allow you some time to obtain another if you find that it doesn't work anymore.
CheersGary
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3rd Feb 2021 4:45 pm
LT
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Location: South West
Posts: 23337
I think I’d rather the FFRR was stolen than go to the trouble of keeping the ‘key’ in my gun cabinet. 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
3rd Feb 2021 6:31 pm
highlands
Member Since: 11 Jan 2010
Location: NW Highlands
Posts: 5095
An old tobacco tin would probably work better than most of the expensive pouches.Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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3rd Feb 2021 6:54 pm
galwaygreen
Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: plymouth
Posts: 6525
think the defender was designed for mobile phones whilst driving...but also works with fob....using for 4 years now..one for each key
3rd Feb 2021 7:15 pm
Johnny Oxford
Member Since: 14 Dec 2014
Location: Chinnor
Posts: 515
tried it, doesn't work.
highlands wrote:
An old tobacco tin would probably work better than most of the expensive pouches.
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5th Feb 2021 8:11 am
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1520
Yes, be careful using tins. I need rued a few different ones. Some worked better than others, but most were intermittent. In some cases it depended on which way around the lid was fitted. If you need to be sure ( which I think we do , because there’s no point otherwise), then best spend £5 on a pouch.Gary
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5th Feb 2021 10:23 am
highlands
Member Since: 11 Jan 2010
Location: NW Highlands
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Johnny Oxford wrote:
tried it, doesn't work.
highlands wrote:
An old tobacco tin would probably work better than most of the expensive pouches.
Out of interest, which one / what was it made of?Black 05 TDV6 HSE Auto
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