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captain_sugar

Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095

2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Scotia Grey

LR Czech Republic

I heard rumours that AMT - the czech importer and monopolist - has existential problems. I have heard that they do not deliver spare parts or new cars anymore to their dealers. my dealer travels to germany for spares and tells new customers that they could order a car but that the chances of delivery are low.
can somebody confirm? or does anybody know more? Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donï¿½t know
Why you gotta be so undemanding

8th Jun 2009 10:10 am

captain_sugar

Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095

This might explain the low sales volume during april 2009:
Only 2 pieces registred against 16pc in the first quartal of 2009.
Discovery fell to the last place.

First number: sales 4/2009
Second number: sales 1-4/2009
Third number: % 4/2009
Fourth number: % 1-4/2009

TřÃda velkÃ½ch terÃ©nnÃch vozů, registrace na českÃ©m trhu v dubnu 2009
- Kategorie OA+LUV OA+LUV TrÅ¾nÃ podÃl ve tř. TrÅ¾nÃ podÃl ve tř.
- ObdobÃ 4/2009 1-4/2009 4/2009 1-4/2009
1. BMW X6 68 194 16,7% 16,9%
2. BMW X5 50 147 12,3% 12,8%
3. Hyundai ix55 46 96 11,3% 8,4%
4. Volkswagen TOUAREG 41 97 10,1% 8,4%
5. Mercedes-Benz ML 33 95 8,1% 8,3%
6. Volvo XC90 32 83 7,9% 7,2%
7. Audi Q7 29 94 7,1% 8,2%
8. Mercedes-Benz GL 17 35 4,2% 3,0%
8. Toyota LAND CRUISER 17 55 4,2% 4,8%
10. Mitsubishi PAJERO 13 33 3,2% 2,9%
11. Nissan PATHFINDER 11 79 2,7% 6,9%
12. Porsche CAYENNE 10 18 2,5% 1,6%
13. Jeep WRANGLER 7 11 1,7% 1,0%
13. Lexus RX 7 25 1,7% 2,2%
15. Nissan MURANO 5 13 1,2% 1,1%
15. Ssangyong KYRON 5 13 1,2% 1,1%
15. Ssangyong REXTON 5 9 1,2% 0,8%
18. Iveco MASSIF 2 3 0,5% 0,3%
18. Jeep GRAND CHEROKEE 2 7 0,5% 0,6%
18. Land Rover DISCOVERY 2 16 0,5% 1,4%
- OstatnÃ modely 5 26 1,2% 2,3%
- CELKEM 407 1149 100,0% 100,0% Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donï¿½t know
Why you gotta be so undemanding

8th Jun 2009 1:43 pm

captain_sugar

Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095

ONE (1) new LR discovery registred in the czech republic in May 2009... This means the ex equo with the phenomenal Shuanghuan CEO !

First number: sales 5/2009
Second number: sales 1-5/2009
Third number: % 5/2009
Fourth number: % 1-5/2009

Big 4x4:

1. Volvo XC90 41 124 15,7% 8,8%
2. Mercedes-Benz ML 37 132 14,2% 9,4%
3. BMW X6 30 224 11,5% 15,9%
4. Audi Q7 27 121 10,3% 8,6%
4. BMW X5 27 174 10,3% 12,3%
6. Hyundai iX55 25 121 9,6% 8,6%
7. Volkswagen TOUAREG 19 116 7,3% 8,2%
8. Mercedes-Benz GL 10 45 3,8% 3,2%
9. Lexus RX 7 32 2,7% 2,3%
10. Nissan MURANO 6 19 2,3% 1,3%
11. Nissan PATHFINDER 5 84 1,9% 6,0%
11. Toyota LAND CRUISER 5 60 1,9% 4,3%
13. Jeep WRANGLER 4 15 1,5% 1,1%
13. Mitsubishi PAJERO 4 37 1,5% 2,6%
13. Porsche CAYENNE 4 22 1,5% 1,6%
16. Iveco MASSIF 2 5 0,8% 0,4%
16. Jeep GRAND CHEROKEE 2 9 0,8% 0,6%
16. Ssangyong KYRON 2 15 0,8% 1,1%
19. Land Rover DISCOVERY 1 17 0,4% 1,2%
19. Nissan PATROL 1 1 0,4% 0,1%
19. Shuanghuan CEO 1 1 0,4% 0,1%
19. Ssangyong REXTON 1 10 0,4% 0,7%
- Other models 0 26 0,0% 1,8%
- total 261 1410 100,0% 100,0%

Please also note: No other cars (not listed) sold, this means NO FFRR, NO LRsport, and probably NO freelander sold (see below)

1. Volkswagen TIGUAN 137 416 15,4% 9,8%
2. Ford KUGA 103 242 11,6% 5,7%
3. Honda CR-V 79 474 8,9% 11,2%
4. Volvo XC60 64 320 7,2% 7,5%
5. Å koda YETI 47 47 5,3% 1,1%
6. Nissan QASHQAI 46 244 5,2% 5,7%
7. Kia SPORTAGE 44 210 4,9% 4,9%
8. Mitsubishi OUTLANDER 36 206 4,0% 4,8%
8. Subaru FORESTER 36 205 4,0% 4,8%
10. Audi Q5 34 248 3,8% 5,8%
11. Hyundai SANTAFE 33 202 3,7% 4,8%
12. Suzuki GRAND VITARA 29 145 3,3% 3,4%
13. Mercedes-Benz GLK 28 97 3,1% 2,3%
14. Toyota RAV4 27 166 3,0% 3,9%
14. Renault KOLEOS 27 126 3,0% 3,0%
16. Hyundai TUCSON 23 118 2,6% 2,8%
17. Peugeot 4007 21 67 2,4% 1,6%
18. CitroÃ«n C CROSSER 16 65 1,8% 1,5%
19. Kia SORENTO 11 164 1,2% 3,9%
20. BMW X 3 9 64 1,0% 1,5%
20. Chevrolet CAPTIVA 9 96 1,0% 2,3%
22. Mazda CX-7 8 61 0,9% 1,4%
23. Suzuki JIMNY 6 32 0,7% 0,8%
23. Nissan X-TRAIL 6 140 0,7% 3,3%
25. Lada NIVA 5 34 0,6% 0,8%
- Other models 6 59 0,7% 1,4%
- TOTAL 890 4248 100,0% 100,0% Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donï¿½t know
Why you gotta be so undemanding

22nd Jun 2009 12:19 pm

grzesiul

Member Since: 11 May 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 6407

2016 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 SE Auto Loire Blue

I have never expected you guys need cars in such a small country lol
cheers

22nd Jun 2009 12:28 pm

captain_sugar

Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095

A bit different data for June:

First number: sales Jan-July 2009
Second number: sales Jan-July 2008
Third number: change in absolute numbers
Fourth number: change in %
Fifth number: market share in % Jan-June 2009

Registrace na českÃ©m trhu, průběÅ¾nÃ© vÃ½sledky za rok 2009
- Kategorie OA+LUV OA+LUV změna změna TrÅ¾nÃ podÃl
- ObdobÃ 1-6/2009 1-6/2008 [ks] [%] 1-6/2009
1. Å koda 24340 30267 -5927 -19,6% 26,4%
2. Ford 9322 8363 959 11,5% 10,1%
3. Volkswagen 7418 7968 -550 -6,9% 8,1%
4. Renault 6604 7197 -593 -8,2% 7,2%
5. Hyundai 4604 4685 -81 -1,7% 5,0%
6. Kia 4594 4022 572 14,2% 5,0%
7. Peugeot 4196 5311 -1115 -21,0% 4,6%
8. CitroÃ«n 4018 5676 -1658 -29,2% 4,4%
9. Fiat 2798 3550 -752 -21,2% 3,0%
10. Chevrolet 2409 2359 50 2,1% 2,6%
11. Toyota 2277 2927 -650 -22,2% 2,5%
12. Opel 2239 2781 -542 -19,5% 2,4%
13. Suzuki 2034 2146 -112 -5,2% 2,2%
14. Mercedes-Benz 1912 2496 -584 -23,4% 2,1%
15. Audi 1764 1788 -24 -1,3% 1,9%
16. Honda 1558 1458 100 6,9% 1,7%
17. Seat 1329 1406 -77 -5,5% 1,4%
18. BMW 1313 1548 -235 -15,2% 1,4%
19. Mazda 1215 1862 -647 -34,7% 1,3%
20. Nissan 1210 1533 -323 -21,1% 1,3%
21. Dacia 1028 1321 -293 -22,2% 1,1%
22. Volvo 938 757 181 23,9% 1,0%
23. Mitsubishi 789 945 -156 -16,5% 0,9%
24. Subaru 613 568 45 7,9% 0,7%
25. Iveco 229 394 -165 -41,9% 0,2%
26. Lexus 112 124 -12 -9,7% 0,1%
27. Alfa Romeo 103 106 -3 -2,8% 0,1%
28. Porsche 97 112 -15 -13,4% 0,1%
29. Land Rover 89 202 -113 -55,9% 0,1%
30. Lada 87 109 -22 -20,2% 0,1%
31. Jeep 84 138 -54 -39,1% 0,1%
32. Jaguar 80 84 -4 -4,8% 0,1%
33. Chrysler 57 80 -23 -28,8% 0,1%
34. Dodge 56 61 -5 -8,2% 0,1%
35. Renault Trucks 44 93 -49 -52,7% -
36. Mini 43 46 -3 -6,5% -
37. Ssangyong 42 49 -7 -14,3% -
38. Lancia 38 13 25 192,3% -
39. smart 34 63 -29 -46,0% -
40. Saab 28 56 -28 -50,0% -
41. Ferrari 17 18 -1 -5,6% -
42. Maserati 17 19 -2 -10,5% -
43. Infiniti 9 0 9 - -
43. Hummer 9 37 -28 -75,7% -
45. Cadillac 7 28 -21 -75,0% -
46. Kaipan 4 8 -4 -50,0% -
46. Santana 4 8 -4 -50,0% -
48. KTM 3 0 3 - -
49. Rover 1 8 -7 -87,5% -
- Celkem - JinÃ© značky 284 236 48 20,3% 0,3%
- Celkem 92100 105026 -12926 -12,3% 100,0%

A huge drop from 202 pc in 2008 to 89 pc in 2009 (same period). Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donï¿½t know
Why you gotta be so undemanding

9th Jul 2009 2:24 pm

captain_sugar

Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095

nobody has info? I read LR Czech Rep. is insolvent. Didn't pay their employees for 3 months.... Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donï¿½t know
Why you gotta be so undemanding

14th Oct 2009 7:11 pm

Popelka

Member Since: 31 May 2008
Location: Praha (Prague)
Posts: 2430

The AMT showrooms near 'Cerny Most ' seem to be closing/closed, the Jaguar part has been emptied; however the LR side still has flags flying and items and staff in the showroom.

2 weeks ago we saw them remove the outside signs from the Jaguar side of the building so something is definitely happening with them, although LR outlet in Brno were try for sales
They were very happy to reply to my emails regarding a test drive; even said they would open on Saturday just for me as they dont work weekends and I cant get down there unless it's Fri-Sun due to work commitments...... Experience is a difficult teacher, because she gives the test first and then the lesson afterwards!!!!

15th Oct 2009 5:05 am

captain_sugar

Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095

It seems final now. The Land-rover international site readresses you to the international site when choosing a local site for the czech rep.

Moreover, in the dealer locator, the czech republic has vanished in the country list...
No importer and no dealers...

Popelka, I hope you did not order and paid an advance.... Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donï¿½t know
Why you gotta be so undemanding

6th Nov 2009 1:37 pm

Popelka

Member Since: 31 May 2008
Location: Praha (Prague)
Posts: 2430

No as I have a company car 4x4 . but I cant see that just because AMT are struggling Czech's wont be able to purchase LR nor get the serviced I have seen several outlets that are not AMT . Experience is a difficult teacher, because she gives the test first and then the lesson afterwards!!!!

8th Nov 2009 1:03 am

StepanT

Member Since: 01 Jul 2008
Location: Prague
Posts: 211

Trouble is, at least for us, based in Prague, that the nearest dealer is in Liberec or Jihlava. As my next service is approaching very quickly, I am seriously thiking of taking my D3 to a dealer in Germany. At least I will have the opportunity to compare. D3 LE James Cook, 2,7 TDV6 auto

8th Nov 2009 8:40 am

captain_sugar

Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095

The below text is taken from this forum: http://landroverforum.klape.cz/forum/viewt...p;start=60 so no idea how true it is:

"Kupodivu musÃme s větÅ¡inou věcÃ přispÃvatele souhlasit, aÅ¾ na jednu malou â€ždrobnostâ€œ. CelÃ© jednÃ¡nÃ bylo vedeno v angličtině a proto se domnÃvÃ¡me Å¾e přispÃvatel ne vÅ¡emu sprÃ¡vně rozuměl.Na jednoznačnÃ½ dotaz, zda v tuto chvÃli existuje autorizovanÃ½ dealer v ČR odpověděl předsedajÃcÃ (regionÃ¡lnÃ manager pro JAGUAR a LAND ROVER z Anglie) jednoznačně NE ! V tuto chvÃli nemÃ¡ Å¾Ã¡dnÃ½ dealer platnou smlouvu s vÃ½robcem. NÃ¡vrhy smluv budou předÃ¡ny a konzultovÃ¡ny se vÅ¡emi v průběhu 4 â€“ 6 tÃ½dnů, tak jak sprÃ¡vně uvÃ¡dÃ přispÃvatel."

So If you have a car within guarantee, you now need to go to Germany, Austria, Poland or elsewhere to have a guarantee problem repaired or to have an authorized service done. Especially since czechs have the bad habit to welcome AND use all (even formal matters) to say that the guarantee is wasted. Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donï¿½t know
Why you gotta be so undemanding

8th Nov 2009 7:28 pm

captain_sugar

Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095

StepanT wrote:
Trouble is, at least for us, based in Prague, that the nearest dealer is in Liberec or Jihlava. As my next service is approaching very quickly, I am seriously thiking of taking my D3 to a dealer in Germany. At least I will have the opportunity to compare.

Liberec is/was also my dealer, even when I am from Nachod. Vrchlabi nor Prague couldn't offer me a good service. Liberec was the only one that stood up.

But Liberec doen't exist anymore. Dorda movedto ceska lipa, further away from prague and me. Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donï¿½t know
Why you gotta be so undemanding

8th Nov 2009 7:35 pm

macgro

Member Since: 01 Nov 2010
Location: krakow
Posts: 55

2006 Discovery 3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Buckingham Blue

Dobri!
how it is now? I can't believe, it is so rare to have sold a landy.
We have in Poland at this moment a surreal situation, you can't find a disco in a good condition, low mileage... everything sold out!

kind greetings, macgro

7th Nov 2010 9:44 pm

captain_sugar

Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095

den dobre Macgro,

The impoter for the czech republic is now the austrian importer. Spare parts are assured. Maybe they might even expand the czech dealer network.... New cars: don't know.

Macgro, are you a dealer selling LR, a second hand trader or are you searching for a disco privately?
If Poland is sold out on second hand, there are some here, and surely even more in Germany and other western countries where cars are changed as often as shoes...

In a local ad-paper i saw by coincidence a 2008 disco, 79000km advertised at 536000czk +vat.
http://www.tuning-e35.cz/index.php?page=oj...&id=23 +420 606 602 902
Otherwise, try www.tipcars.cz I am sure you can handle the czech language. Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donï¿½t know
Why you gotta be so undemanding

7th Nov 2010 10:06 pm

macgro

Member Since: 01 Nov 2010
Location: krakow
Posts: 55

Deki!
Well just git mine yesterday (and sinked it today). thanks!

I am private so no sales, trade offs or else, just enjoying life. Prices for 2nd hand discos are atrocious here. 15-20% more than in Germany for a good used one but to import it and registering it costs you a fortune in terms of money and time. Especially v8...

Cheers! macgro

7th Nov 2010 10:20 pm