ltrains
Member Since: 15 Feb 2017
Location: new york
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Hey everybody, my very first post here.
I have a 2010 lr4 hse, from usa. Recently my son threw my one and only key fob in the toilet and it stopped working. tried replacing the battery, blow drying but nothing got it to work.
Im still able to start the car with key fob under the steering wheel.
I bought two ebay remotes for lr4 and iidtool bt off ebay. Got the iidtool working but wasn't able to program the key fob using the procedures in the app. it said key couldnt be program, i might need a working key fob for it to program because it had to shut the engine and also start it but wasnt able to because it didn't detect a key fob. But it let me still go through process of programming the remote.
Please help me, i wanted to avoid the dealer by programming myself but this is not looking good.
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 29th Oct 2017 5:39 am |
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OJ
Member Since: 01 Oct 2017
Location: Loch Leven
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Pretty sure you need a working key fob to copy the settings over to the new one
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| 29th Oct 2017 9:40 am |
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Ja92mie
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
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I agree, I would say you need at least one working fob.
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| 29th Oct 2017 9:45 am |
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ROY_H
Member Since: 30 Jun 2014
Location: South Hams Devon
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Also, a lot of the fobs on ebay are the wrong working frequency 
You need one at 434 MHz not the 315 MHz that are sold on there as well.  Morris Dancers: Drinkers with A Dance Problem
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| 29th Oct 2017 11:14 am |
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Hardware
Member Since: 28 Jun 2016
Location: Hiding under the M60
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er ... when my car was nicked, I had one fob about 6 miles away and the other was locked in the safe at the dealers'.
so I DON'T think you need a fob to be present, working or otherwise. .
Dean
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2011 D4 XS - OBD port protection, RLD spare wheel protector, All LED interiors lights, Timed Climate enabled, iiD tool paired.
2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
2011 D4 GS - Stolen whilst at dealer  ... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
1996 300Tdi - Eaten by tin worms
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| 29th Oct 2017 12:11 pm |
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OJ
Member Since: 01 Oct 2017
Location: Loch Leven
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It’s always possible the perps used a program to nick your code at some point without you being aware and transferred it to another fob or similar to allow the car to be driven away.
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| 29th Oct 2017 1:02 pm |
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ltrains
Member Since: 15 Feb 2017
Location: new york
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Thanks for the suggestions and input.
If i need a working fob present while programming, thats impossible for me because i only received one fob when i bought the car which is now broken.
Any other way to get a fob programmed?
If not i will need to go to the dealer
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| 29th Oct 2017 2:29 pm |
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OJ
Member Since: 01 Oct 2017
Location: Loch Leven
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The only way I know of is finding an independent with an auto-logic diagnostic unit or similar, I’m pretty sure that the information can be transferred to a new key fob, or as a last resort contact your Nearest LR dealer give them the VIN code and possibly your registration details etc to show your genuine and they will supply you with a key, then make a spare
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| 29th Oct 2017 3:03 pm |
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ROY_H
Member Since: 30 Jun 2014
Location: South Hams Devon
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ROY_H wrote:Also, a lot of the fobs on ebay are the wrong working frequency
You need one at 434 MHz not the 315 MHz that are sold on there as well.
Ooops....just noticed you're in the US so it might be the other way round  Morris Dancers: Drinkers with A Dance Problem
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| 29th Oct 2017 5:30 pm |
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ltrains
Member Since: 15 Feb 2017
Location: new york
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i finally got the new key fobs to work using the broken key fob to program.
Apparently the brand new key fobs had dead batteries installed. Unbelievable.
I used the iidtool bt and programmed 2 new key fobs. Now im wondering is there a way to delete the previous keys?
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| 29th Oct 2017 7:48 pm |
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OJ
Member Since: 01 Oct 2017
Location: Loch Leven
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Well done sorting this out, I might be lost here, I thought you didn’t have any other keys, if your worried about the old useless one that fell down the pan take the battery out and knock feck out of it with a hammer until it’s in total bits, doubt if it will be any use after that. 
Remember and wear safety glasses if your that way inclined or wrap the old key up in a cloth before you set about it, wait until somebody really annoys you then take it out on the key  works wonders
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| 29th Oct 2017 8:11 pm |
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ltrains
Member Since: 15 Feb 2017
Location: new york
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Great idea on giving the old remote a good beating. That was my one and only fob before. Im just concern the previous owner might still have the extra key fob which he claimed he has lost. But I'm not that worried aince i had the car for 2years already. Thanks guys, going try to stay active on this forum.
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| 30th Oct 2017 1:11 am |
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OJ
Member Since: 01 Oct 2017
Location: Loch Leven
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Hi Itrains, don’t think there’s much you can do about changing the code as it’s imbedded in and specific to your vehicle without having it completely erased and redone, always a worry but if 2 years have passed I think your safe.
Glad you got it all sorted in the end, pretty cold here in Scotland, -2c this morning.
All the best
Old Jock
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| 30th Oct 2017 11:12 am |
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Hardware
Member Since: 28 Jun 2016
Location: Hiding under the M60
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OJ-LR4 wrote:It’s always possible the perps used a program to nick your code at some point without you being aware and transferred it to another fob or similar to allow the car to be driven away.
PM on it's way !
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| 30th Oct 2017 11:34 am |
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Washwipe
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: Bucks Oxon Herts Border
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OJ-LR4 wrote:
Glad you got it all sorted in the end, pretty cold here in Scotland, -2c this morning.
All the best
Old Jock
It wasn’t to clever at 4am this morning down where I am, -1 with occasional flashing of -2, first scrape of the screen for 2017 winter.
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| 30th Oct 2017 6:22 pm |
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