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Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10335
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This is kinda how you do it on a iid which are £400
Best to choose first option (not confirmed list)
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17th Oct 2017 11:04 pm |
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rowlejohn
Member Since: 15 Sep 2017
Location: Montmorillon, Vienne (86)
Posts: 204
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A further update.....
Contacted a member of another LR forum who owns a Disco 3, HSE, 2008/9 model which has the same equipment fitted as mine. He also has the IID tool and had it unlocked to suit my VIN.
Met up with him and he went through all the CCF functions and found that the electric steering wheel and tilt functions were shown as "Not fitted"- these were enabled and the column would still not adjust manually. It showed that there was no voltage present when the adjustment switch was moved (In Manual-not Auto mode).
I suggested that could he swap the module on his car with the new module in order to ascertain whether this second new module was faulty-he was happy to go ahead with that. The module has been removed and posted to him.
I fitted my old module back in the car, as I expected, the steering column works as it should
Will advise the outcome and thoughts after the test has been completed.
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24th Oct 2017 12:06 pm |
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Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10335
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I'd be interested to know.... before he changes modules, to look at his car CCF and see if steering is fitted. Worth a quick check as logic isn't always the right way round.
Think I would have reset your car? battery disconnection maybe before giving up
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24th Oct 2017 4:53 pm |
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rowlejohn
Member Since: 15 Sep 2017
Location: Montmorillon, Vienne (86)
Posts: 204
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Quick question.....If the battery is disconnected for any reason, does the radio etc. need a code-which I do not have- and the windows/sunroof be reset or re-taught ?
Still waiting for news on the memory module "Test" but I am not in any rush, plus we are off to France on Monday for a week.
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27th Oct 2017 1:21 pm |
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Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10335
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There is no radio code.
Don't recall any issues with the window one touch
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27th Oct 2017 5:30 pm |
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rowlejohn
Member Since: 15 Sep 2017
Location: Montmorillon, Vienne (86)
Posts: 204
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UPDATE***
Follow up info since my last post. Johnlad had the new module and very kindly tried it on his Disco 3 with electric steering column. Here is his texed reply to me.....
"Just tested my cig readings for the steering adjustment and mem seating and they were set to inactive as yours were before we altered them.
Anyway I went ahead and fitted your module and it did not work the steering column adjust feature so put my original one back and all works as it should so can only assume your new module is a faulty unit like the previous one
Thanks John"
I have contacted Conwy Land Rover and they suggested that it it appears there is a faulty batch of the modules at their Central Spares Depot. Accordingly, I have sent a mail to the supplier requesting a replacement/refund. As the main stealers do not have the equipment to carry out specific function tests on the sealed modules and no faults appear on diagnostics, it looks very much a luck of the draw scenario with getting a functional component other than getting one from the manufacturer which has passed all function tests. The label has "Ford" printed on it as well as the LR logo, IF, Ford use these on one of their models which do not have electric steering adjustment, could it be that the wrong label has been put on a Ford unit ???.......The mind boggles
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6th Nov 2017 4:33 pm |
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rowlejohn
Member Since: 15 Sep 2017
Location: Montmorillon, Vienne (86)
Posts: 204
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Just had this info from the guy who fitted the module to his car to try it out. It's a list of errors .
Vehicle scanned on 03-11-2017 18:12
Using IIDTool BT V3.0 B2444
Body Control
• B1B69-16 (6C) 12 volt supply circuit - General electrical failure - circuit voltage below threshold
( on 29-10-2017 11:15:42 at 124622 mi )
• B1B70-81 (28) Local interconnection network bus circuit 2 - Bus signal/message failure - invalid serial data received
( on 29-10-2017 12:03:35 at 124622 mi )
• B1B85-87 (28) Memory control module - Bus signal/message failure - missing a message
( on 29-10-2017 11:15:42 at 124622 mi )
• B1C13-3A (68) Driver's up/down mirror motor feedback circuit - Frequency modulation/pulse width modulation failure - incorrect, has too many pulses
( on 29-10-2017 11:15:42 at 124622 mi )
• B1C14-3A (68) Driver's left/right mirror motor feedback circuit - Frequency modulation/pulse width modulation failure - incorrect, has too many pulses
( on 29-10-2017 11:15:42 at 124622 mi )
• B1C15-3A (68) Passenger's up/down mirror motor feedback circuit - Frequency modulation/pulse width modulation failure - incorrect, has too many pulses
( on 29-10-2017 11:15:42 at 124622 mi )
• B1C16-3A (68) Passenger's left/right mirror motor feedback circuit - Frequency modulation/pulse width modulation failure - incorrect, has too many pulses
( on 29-10-2017 11:15:42 at 124622 mi )
• B1C33-3A (68) Steering column tilt feedback signal - Frequency modulation/pulse width modulation failure - incorrect, has too many pulses
( on 29-10-2017 11:15:42 at 124622 mi )
• B1C35-3A (68) Steering column telescope feedback signal - Frequency modulation/pulse width modulation failure - incorrect, has too many pulses
( on 29-10-2017 11:15:42 at 124622 mi )
Important to add that all his memory functions etc. work as they should with his original module
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6th Nov 2017 6:01 pm |
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rowlejohn
Member Since: 15 Sep 2017
Location: Montmorillon, Vienne (86)
Posts: 204
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Due to all the faffing about regarding return of the unit to the supplier, which they are happy to accept, they suggested that I take it to my local LR Stealer-Conwy Landrover for them to handle, which I did on Friday. The parts guy told me that as they hadn't fitted the part, despite having details of the fault codes it threw up (Thanks Johnlad for that), they needed to prove to themselves that it was in fact faulty. They are prepared to order in a new item from LR. I have to take the car in, they will fit the faulty new unit I have to see if there are any problems. They will then fit the new unit they have ordered and see if that works. If it does, there will be no labour charges as the part is under warranty, if it doesn't they will request that all items in stock be quarantined . In other words, I will only have to pay if the "Faulty" new unit decides to work (Doubtful) and I will only be billed for the labour involved, which they tell me is a while you wait operation.
They also confirmed that replacement of the unit is a "Plug & Play" process with no programming involved although they will use their diagnostic system to look for any errors.
This is to take place in a couple of weeks time, I will of course keep you updated with the outcome.
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12th Nov 2017 4:16 pm |
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johnlad
Member Since: 02 Dec 2016
Location: blackpool
Posts: 406
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let us know how you get on
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12th Nov 2017 4:59 pm |
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rowlejohn
Member Since: 15 Sep 2017
Location: Montmorillon, Vienne (86)
Posts: 204
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Yet another update.....This is getting like a Corrie storyline...goes on and on and on.......
Spent over 4 hours in Conwy Land Rover (Should have been a "While you wait" job). The (Dodgy ?) module was fitted and the car hooked up to their SDD diagnostics which was calling for the barcode to be entered which is located on a label attached to the steering column. This barcode is unique to the steering column assembly, PROBLEM !!!..the barcode was printed off centre on the label and the row of letters and numbers was cut in half and illegible without this information the Technician could not proceed. Billed me for 1 hours labour at £132.00 incl. VAT. Got back home and photographed the label which the Tech had given me and mailed it to my Nephew who is the guru on barcodes and within 10 minutes had all of the digits.
Phoned Conwy with the news to be told the earliest they can book me in is 3rd January.
I have seen the Jag/LR SDD diagnostics on the Bay for £100 or so with good feedback to the Sellers. As it is dealer level, has anyone on here had any experience of these ??
More to follow Guys
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12th Dec 2017 8:35 pm |
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kajtzu
Member Since: 10 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6538
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I believe could be considered software piracy if you buy SDD off ebay. I don't think it is supposed to be available just like that for anyone to buy outside the JLR supply chain.
Another thing is that SDD talks with "the factory" every time you connect it to your vehicle so you need some kind of username/password combination, perhaps the one you use to access TOPIx. The factory talking part I know for sure because I was able to cancel/void the sale of a D4 with a seriously doctored odometer. In half a year it had gotten ~100000 km younger than what it really was.
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13th Dec 2017 6:10 am |
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