| Did you gain or loose on fuel economy with a BAS remap. |
| No Gain ,No loss in MPG |
10%
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10% |
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| I had a gain in MPG |
45%
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45% |
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| I had a loss in MPG |
15%
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15% |
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| I dont care, i like the extra power and just put diesel in when needed. |
30%
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30% |
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Robster
Member Since: 17 Oct 2008
Location: Deregistered
Posts: 269
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Hi All
I am seriously considering a remap and like the idea of the BAS one as I can reload should it get reset during a service.
HOWEVER MPG is my primary reason for doing the remap, extra power is a nice extra but MPG is key.
Can anyone give me before and after figures?
For comparison I have a 55 plate Auto HSE and I am getting 22-24MPG mixed motoring and got 2MPG ONCE on a long run.
Cheers.
Robin
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 13th Feb 2009 9:14 pm |
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BLACK BETTY
Member Since: 18 Oct 2008
Location: Louth
Posts: 575
  
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I got a bas remap just over xmas, and my D3 is 2005 with 175K km manual, mostly motorway miles.
The overall verdict is 
Pete
Power/performance 
MPG:
originally I was returning 26-27mpg at best efforts (1900rpm all the way)
now on similar driving can return 32mpg with a little effort
once got 38 , but dont understand where that came from, basically
money well spent and the stealer will know nowt
BB Nine-tenths of wisdom is being wise in time.
Also appears 9/10 of stopping is stopping in time
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DiscoReaper&view=videos
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| 14th Feb 2009 1:05 am |
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marcon
Member Since: 01 Mar 2006
Location: wex's Shed
Posts: 457
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I agree with BB the remap on my 2008 auto D3 has made power delivery really smooth and you notice the extra power straight away.
I only have it a few days and so far mpg has not suffered.
Money well spent in my opinion.
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| 14th Feb 2009 1:28 am |
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M1ke
Member Since: 25 Jan 2009
Location: Huntingdon
Posts: 85
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How much are we talking for a remap? m1ke's Photos on Flickriver
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| 14th Feb 2009 12:14 pm |
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741hcr
Member Since: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Usually in front of the PC
Posts: 175
 
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M1ke wrote:How much are we talking for a remap?
Was £499 including the Interface box that allows you to swap between tuned and standard maps whenever you want. Sounds like a very clever system. Offer is here: http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic29035.html
Last edited by 741hcr on 19th Feb 2009 2:06 pm. Edited 1 time in total
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| 14th Feb 2009 12:46 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
Posts: 2532
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| BAS Remap Fuel economy results. |
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HI
As all of you know i dont 100% guarantee any gain on fuel economy on a remap as there are to many factory to take into consideration that can affect the engine and its economy from fuel quality to driving style etc etc.
If the members that have had my tuning could give a honest reply on there findings of economy or not with my remap i would apreciate it.
Ive been told that some other tuning companys offer a money back guarantee on there remaps stating that you WILL gain on economy XXX% or XXXmpg gain which i find hard to match considering all the factors that can affect it, and as a tuner i dont have control over the fuel used and how its driven etc etc.
If it were a guarantee of a gain in power then i would have no problems giving a warranty/guarantee because this IS something i can control when mapping.
All my cars are arround the same on economy as before tuning, they loose if i use supermarket fuel but sometimes gain when i use BP diesel.
I drive them hard ish and use the extra power.
But to sum them up they very near the same as standard when tuned.
Regards Pete
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| 15th Feb 2009 5:05 pm |
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BLACK BETTY
Member Since: 18 Oct 2008
Location: Louth
Posts: 575
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Pete
I've posted a few times already on this subject, but I'll do it again for the benefit of the unconverted masses.
First its important to realise that the MPG indicator on the dash is put there by LR propaganda departmant, because its about as accurate as me on a Saturday night.
When a correct MPG is calculated, I personally was getting the following
26-27mpg ( motorway driving, trying for best mpg)
21-23mpg ( pulling heavy loads or lashing Betty like I stole her)
Then I met Pete and my life change, he put the spark back into Betty and I lover her again 
Now Betty returns between 31-32mpg (motorway driving, trying hard for mpg ie nothing above 1900rpm)
25-26 mpg with trailers and hard lashing
Now the confusing bits;
after a BAS remap you WILL love your car again and the new tricks it has learned, and as such you WILL want to take her out regularly and cane her. Unfortunately if you cane it , the mpg will suffer.
So it takes discipline to achieve the higher MPG figures, also no uneccessary idling in carparks or building sites blathering about how bad things are, you get the idea.
Fuel is also a MAJOR variable;
some of the more supposed reputable fuel retails are not too shy about cutting your diesel with kero, diesels cheaper first cousin, and kero destroys MPG, along with I suspect some of your engine parts.
This is why I now have opted for a slimline fuel tank down the side of my house, with a oil company delivering 1000ltrs at a time, this has yeildes two fold, I have noted more consistent MPG returns and also save about 5-6 cent per ltr, a 5-6% saving at the moment, but slower to fill in the mornings before going to work.
( another advantage is I've now quit the breakfast rolls as the service station hot deli is less tempting whilst driving by, hot coffee and brekie roll smell have been proven scientifically to be irresistable after filling fuel)
I suppose the short version of this reply is as follows,
YES I have found a BAS remap to improve economy
and to add on
I have found Pete to be the most obliging person I've ever bought anything off, and if you knew me you'd know me to be a picky, miserable, tight, fook,
so when I say that its big to Pete
BB 
ps
As a site sponsor, Pete should have a special emoticon for fans of BAS remaps  Nine-tenths of wisdom is being wise in time.
Also appears 9/10 of stopping is stopping in time
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DiscoReaper&view=videos
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| 15th Feb 2009 5:33 pm |
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741hcr
Member Since: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Usually in front of the PC
Posts: 175
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| Re: BAS Remap Fuel economy results. |
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bellautos wrote:All my cars are around the same on economy as before tuning, they loose if i use supermarket fuel but sometimes gain when i use BP diesel
Were you using supermarket fuel or BP ultimate prior to the remap?
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| 15th Feb 2009 6:47 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
Posts: 2532
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Ive tested with both fuels before and after remap tuning.
Even left in standard form i get better economy on BP fuel over the supermarket fuel.
I dont always buy ultimate sometimes i just buy the normal BP fuel.
Regards pete
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| 15th Feb 2009 6:50 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
Posts: 2532
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Just had this thread pointed out to me, i didnt see it before i started this one 
May be a moderator can merge threads ??
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic30964.html
Thank you for the replys so far from the members.
Regards pete
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| 15th Feb 2009 7:37 pm |
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BLACK BETTY
Member Since: 18 Oct 2008
Location: Louth
Posts: 575
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Arrrraggggggghhhhhhh
Betty going in for a service while I'm on a break for the mid-terms, so removed the remap today, and drove on the original settings, its only been eight weeks, but on the road with 'old' Betty, made me want to stick my head in an oven - a gas oven. Thinking of sending Pete a few quid more for the remap now i realize how much it is to be missed,
Ar  se,  just thought of another thing
the dealers loaner wont be remapped either, 
BB Nine-tenths of wisdom is being wise in time.
Also appears 9/10 of stopping is stopping in time
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DiscoReaper&view=videos
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| 16th Feb 2009 11:30 pm |
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marcon
Member Since: 01 Mar 2006
Location: wex's Shed
Posts: 457
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Slightly  but one thing should be mentioned about this re-map option is the ability to be able to install and uninstall re-map by the end user.I had a problem with D3 today and before leaving in to dealer I was able to reinstall original Landrover programme in a matter of minutes.It turned out to be EGR problem,but the peace of mind in not having to leave it to dealer with remap means a lot(especially when under warranty) .
Just something else to consider when choosing a re-map.
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| 16th Feb 2009 11:54 pm |
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Gaza
Member Since: 08 Jan 2009
Location: At the foot of the Lammermuirs
Posts: 448
 
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If mpg is your primary driver then spending £499 doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Assuming a 10% improvement you would need to drive around 33,000 miles before you broke even.
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| 17th Feb 2009 12:01 am |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
Posts: 2532
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BB i agree it does make you relise what extra gain you have when they are put back to standard after a few weeks tuned, i think its even more noticable removed in some cases.
marcon let me know how you get on with your EGr problem , i hope your dealers manage to locate some stock of valves i know my dealers are waiting for stock as im wanting one to emulate the signals from.
pete
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| 17th Feb 2009 12:18 am |
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741hcr
Member Since: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Usually in front of the PC
Posts: 175
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marcon wrote:Slightly but one thing should be mentioned about this re-map option is the ability to be able to install and uninstall re-map by the end user.I had a problem with D3 today and before leaving in to dealer I was able to reinstall original Landrover programme in a matter of minutes.
And you don't even have to lift the bonnet (hood). Apparently it's all done very simply from the comfort of the drivers seat. 8)
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