Ted Newman
Member Since: 09 Oct 2010
Location: SE London
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Smacked my passenger side mirror against a post !! Picked up the bits Cover scratched and small split but still goes on. Glass intact and still clips in and adjusts electronically BUT power fold motor spins (noise) but does not move mirror body and body can be moved around by hand and just flops about  Any suggestions or help gratefully received  LR Discovery 4 XS pulling an Airstream 532 Caravan also own (since new) a 1996 MGF
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 8th Jan 2020 3:18 pm |
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M3bobby
Member Since: 21 May 2018
Location: Sleaford, LINCS.
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You need a new mirror or donor mirror to fix. If you fancy spending some cash, get some second hand MY14 onwards mirrors from eBay. 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
Mods:
TPMS (Complete but got an issue)
Genuine LR DRLs (Complete)
Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2 (Complete)
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (Now 2016 L319)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
2014 LR4 Homelink (Complete)
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass (Complete)
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| 8th Jan 2020 11:19 pm |
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Browny90
Member Since: 19 Jul 2016
Location: Ashbourne
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I have a broken mirror, the frame was cracked, If you have a look at yours you I may have the parts required to repair it? or.. more likely, you need a new/ 2nd hand mirror.
The last one I got I bought 2nd hand and prepped and painted myself, came out great.. Disco4 MY16 SDV6 Landmark Black
Disco4 MY12 SDV6 XS Orkney Grey (Gone)
Defender 90 200tdi Completely rebuilt.
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| 9th Jan 2020 9:19 am |
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Ted Newman
Member Since: 09 Oct 2010
Location: SE London
Posts: 840
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OK Thanks guys LR Discovery 4 XS pulling an Airstream 532 Caravan also own (since new) a 1996 MGF
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| 9th Jan 2020 11:07 am |
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wizbongre
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Liverpool
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How difficult is it to remove the full mirror unit and refit a new one?
Are there different part numbers depending on heated/folding/etc.? Cheers,
Gareth
'57 D3 2.7 TDV6 HSE gone and soon to be forgotten!
‘15 D4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Luxury
'64 Audi A6 3.0BiTDi Quattro S-Line Black Edition with lots of toys
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| 9th Jan 2020 12:56 pm |
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M3bobby
Member Since: 21 May 2018
Location: Sleaford, LINCS.
Posts: 857
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It’s quite straight forward. Pull the triangle trim off the door by pulling the top away from the door. Then if you carefully pull it up and away you will see it clipped to the door panel at the bottom. Put a small screw driver down onto the clip to disengage it and lift the panel up enough to undo the elec connector and put the panel to one side.
Next use the small screw driver to push the main mirror connector lock and pull up the harness. This can be a PITA as it’s behind the door card (you could remove the door card but it’s not required). If you have cameras you will have another plug to disconnect.
Next, lower the window and slacken the 3 bolts. They could be corroded so you’ll have to deal with that if required. Then loosen and remove the bottom 2 mirror mounting bolts. Now hold the mirror housing through the open window and remove the 3rd bolt. Carefully pull the mirror away until you can feed the plug through the hole in the door.
Refitting is the opposite of removal with the exception of reconnecting the electrical plug which can be more of a PITA!! 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
Mods:
TPMS (Complete but got an issue)
Genuine LR DRLs (Complete)
Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2 (Complete)
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (Now 2016 L319)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
2014 LR4 Homelink (Complete)
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass (Complete)
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| 9th Jan 2020 2:02 pm |
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M3bobby
Member Since: 21 May 2018
Location: Sleaford, LINCS.
Posts: 857
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Oh and yes there are dozens of part numbers for differing specs but you can mix and match good parts to make a good one. You can even just replace the motor and gearbox if required. 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
Mods:
TPMS (Complete but got an issue)
Genuine LR DRLs (Complete)
Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2 (Complete)
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (Now 2016 L319)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
2014 LR4 Homelink (Complete)
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass (Complete)
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| 9th Jan 2020 2:05 pm |
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Ted Newman
Member Since: 09 Oct 2010
Location: SE London
Posts: 840
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That all sounds very positive - my problem is I am away at present back in London on Sunday and the car is booked in for service and MOT on Monday -- will it fail the MOT for a faulty passenger side door mirror? LR Discovery 4 XS pulling an Airstream 532 Caravan also own (since new) a 1996 MGF
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| 9th Jan 2020 2:39 pm |
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M3bobby
Member Since: 21 May 2018
Location: Sleaford, LINCS.
Posts: 857
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Will it still meet these requirements?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications...r-vehicles 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
Mods:
TPMS (Complete but got an issue)
Genuine LR DRLs (Complete)
Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2 (Complete)
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (Now 2016 L319)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
2014 LR4 Homelink (Complete)
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass (Complete)
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| 9th Jan 2020 2:52 pm |
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wizbongre
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 695
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Re. the various different part numbers and types...
Luckily I only have heated/folding mirrors however its a 2016MY facelift with black pack - any suggestions on best way to find the right part number(s)?
TIA. Cheers,
Gareth
'57 D3 2.7 TDV6 HSE gone and soon to be forgotten!
‘15 D4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Luxury
'64 Audi A6 3.0BiTDi Quattro S-Line Black Edition with lots of toys
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| 9th Jan 2020 3:38 pm |
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Ted Newman
Member Since: 09 Oct 2010
Location: SE London
Posts: 840
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M3bobby wrote:Will it still meet these requirements?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications...r-vehicles
As I read it YES External off side all OK Internal all OK. External near side in place and adjustable but taped up to stop it folding in! LR Discovery 4 XS pulling an Airstream 532 Caravan also own (since new) a 1996 MGF
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| 9th Jan 2020 4:54 pm |
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M3bobby
Member Since: 21 May 2018
Location: Sleaford, LINCS.
Posts: 857
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wizbongre wrote:Re. the various different part numbers and types...
Luckily I only have heated/folding mirrors however its a 2016MY facelift with black pack - any suggestions on best way to find the right part number(s)?
TIA.
To be honest, to be sure you’re best using Topix or a dealer. The MY14 to 16 has even more variations and I’m not joking when I say they’re are probably 150+ variations. Depending what part you need, sometimes it’s cheaper to buy a low line second hand or new unit off eBay. You can even use LHD versions if the frame of the original isn’t damaged. You can also salvage parts from the L405 and L494 as they are similar with the only real difference being the mounting. Unfortunately you can’t but the mirror housings or frames as separate parts so it’s a whole new unit or salvage a second hand part. The actual mirror can be stripped down in about 5 minutes and even the wiring can be stripped out quite quick. I custom assembled my mirrors from L405 and L319 mirrors as I wanted the auto dimming which only came on the Range Rover. 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
Mods:
TPMS (Complete but got an issue)
Genuine LR DRLs (Complete)
Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2 (Complete)
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (Now 2016 L319)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
2014 LR4 Homelink (Complete)
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass (Complete)
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| 9th Jan 2020 5:37 pm |
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wizbongre
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 695
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Thanks for that.
From what I've seen on a cursory glance (need to look properly over the weekend) its only 2 things that are knackered on mine: the built in indicator is full of water and not working & the mirror itself appears to have been snapped off the adjustment motor and glued back in (so it doesn't move, even though you can see the motor moving behind it!)
I'll need to strip it but if I'm lucky, just need to replace indicator & mirror, and at worse also the adjustment motor.
The exterior of the mirror housing is spotless and the powerfold works perfectly so I'm hoping its mostly ok. It doesn't have puddle lights or cameras or any other sensors to worry about. Cheers,
Gareth
'57 D3 2.7 TDV6 HSE gone and soon to be forgotten!
‘15 D4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Luxury
'64 Audi A6 3.0BiTDi Quattro S-Line Black Edition with lots of toys
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| 10th Jan 2020 9:44 am |
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wizbongre
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 695
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M3bobby wrote:
I custom assembled my mirrors from L405 and L319 mirrors as I wanted the auto dimming which only came on the Range Rover.
Just on this, do you only need to swap the mirror unit itself, or are there other elements needed in terms of power/cables/etc. and/or CCF edit?
I have only had auto-dimming on external mirrors once on an A4 some years ago and found it to be a brilliant feature. Cheers,
Gareth
'57 D3 2.7 TDV6 HSE gone and soon to be forgotten!
‘15 D4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Luxury
'64 Audi A6 3.0BiTDi Quattro S-Line Black Edition with lots of toys
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| 10th Jan 2020 9:47 am |
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M3bobby
Member Since: 21 May 2018
Location: Sleaford, LINCS.
Posts: 857
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It’s the mirror glass, wire, 2 connectors (1 per side) to connect to the mirror glass and then contacts for the door to mirror connector x 2, body to door connector x 2, console to body harness and rear view mirror connector x 2. Where I’ve stated x 2, that’s for left and right connector but you actually need 2 per connector so 4, 2 for each wire required. 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
Mods:
TPMS (Complete but got an issue)
Genuine LR DRLs (Complete)
Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2 (Complete)
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (Now 2016 L319)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
2014 LR4 Homelink (Complete)
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass (Complete)
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| 10th Jan 2020 11:13 am |
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