DG wrote:

RRSTDV8 wrote:

You bought a D5 and you loved it. Great. Just accept that others don't like it. It's not a personal attack on you although they way you jump at anyone saying bad things about the D5 certainly feels like you see it as that.

Typical of you to take this angle...I asked "how do you know?" on the basis that you might have actually made a direct comparison by sitting in both...of course though you couldn't have, could you, so it's just your assumption that £48k must be worth it just for some different seats.

nebc100 wrote:

I am sure that I will be hated for posting this, but these are just my own personal opinions.

No hatred at all. Many have found the D5 not to be to their liking but it works for you so is an excellent choice for you.

The Disco 5 is LR's worst seller which might suggest LR got something wrong somewhere.

RRSTDV8 wrote:

I have sat in both D5 and FFRR rear seats however my experience alone wouldn't be enough to prove anything, would it? But many others have come to the same conclusion and posted here and elsewhere about the D5's rear seats being uncomfortable.

DG wrote:

RRSTDV8 wrote:

I have sat in both D5 and FFRR rear seats however my experience alone wouldn't be enough to prove anything, would it? But many others have come to the same conclusion and posted here and elsewhere about the D5's rear seats being uncomfortable.

As has been pointed out the D5 seats have recently been upgraded with the facelift, not that any of my passengers complained in all the 3 years I had the 2018my motor. Maybe the issue was more noticeable to taller people.

Surprised that you managed to find the new 7 seat Range Rover to sit in though, which dealer?

I'm talking about the middle row seats (being a driver of a 5 seat vehicle I habitually refer to row 2 as "the rear seats". Mea culpa). The new FFRR appears to have large luxurious seats in row 2 just as the L405 did before it. They were comfortable in L405 and no doubt the new ones will be too. D5's are not, in my experience.

Having tried the third row seats in a D5, they certainly aren't suitable for a 6 footer of "middle-aged dimensions" although I'm sure a very short trip would have been ok.

I'd be amazed if the FFRR row 3 seats are suitable for larger people either, to be fair. I don't think any car has third row seats that are, really. I shall certainly be interested to try them out when I can, just for completeness of data if nothing else.

I've tried the row 2 seats in a new Defender and they immediately felt better than the D5 ones. I did a back-to-back test as both vehicles were there and open to play with. Night and day difference to me.

D5's row 2 seats are definitely different to those in any of the other large LRs and, in my experience, not well designed. Judging by many comments here and elsewhere, my experience is not unique.

LT wrote:

What is telling is that we are all united by our love for the D3/4.

Steady on, I wouldn't go that far...

There are times I wish my RRS had a larger boot, but otherwise I prefer the handling with the active anti roll bars on both my RRSs to the softer roll set up in D3s and D4s I've driven. That and the better engine range available in the smaller model. Shame the D4 never got the TDV8 or, in the UK, the V8 petrol. I do miss the TDV8 I had. Excellent engine.

RRSTDV8 wrote:

LT wrote:

What is telling is that we are all united by our love for the D3/4.

Steady on, I wouldn't go that far...

There are times I wish my RRS had a larger boot, but otherwise I prefer the handling with the active anti roll bars on both my RRSs to the softer roll set up in D3s and D4s I've driven. That and the better engine range available in the smaller model. Shame the D4 never got the TDV8 or, in the UK, the V8 petrol. I do miss the TDV8 I had. Excellent engine.

You’re a “visitor”.

al cope wrote:

Wasn’t the TDV8 prone to problems, blown turbos, etc.

Al

LT wrote:

RRSTDV8 wrote:

LT wrote:

What is telling is that we are all united by our love for the D3/4.

Steady on, I wouldn't go that far...

There are times I wish my RRS had a larger boot, but otherwise I prefer the handling with the active anti roll bars on both my RRSs to the softer roll set up in D3s and D4s I've driven. That and the better engine range available in the smaller model. Shame the D4 never got the TDV8 or, in the UK, the V8 petrol. I do miss the TDV8 I had. Excellent engine.

You’re a “visitor”.

Ah, yes, er....

RRSTDV8 wrote:

The Disco 5 is LR's worst seller which might suggest LR got something wrong somewhere.

I think thats easily accounted

Cost - it was a price increase, but then they all went up
Rear - widely hated and whilst spec in earlier versions helped mask it and the facelift, it really did hurt it, which leads to
First version did not appeal to the "usual" D4/5 brigade which then didnt help

But overall the D5 is better than the D4, i never had a d3 as i hated it before it was launched.

In terms of space, the D5 isnt small - i was always able to get everything i transported in my D4 in the D5, i would admit there were some elements that were better as a van in the D4, but the discovery, like the volvo needed to evolve from Van

But then i always through the original RRS was better than the D4 the only think was the smaller boot

The D5 should have had the split tailgate like the range rover