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I was in Screwfix yesterday morning, there was a guy (electrician apparently) who was bemoaning the fact that without his O2 phone he had no way of finding his way back to the job from which he had just come from! Stu
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7th Dec 2018 2:59 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
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Pelyma wrote:
RRSTDV8 wrote:
This is a foretelling of the issues that will occur when we have "bad relations" with Russia / China etc. While we spend billions on nukes etc, they are putting lots of effort in ways of attacking our infrastructure.
Think no power, no comms, no anything, all at the press of a button in Beijing.
What makes you think we won't do the same?
I have no doubt that GCHQ would be able to do some stuff to annoy the Chinese - I doubt it would be anywhere as disruptive to the Chinese as it will be to us, however.
China, particularly, makes most of this stuff. They have already been caught putting in "naughty chips" in to stuff. Several nations are now trying to prevent this sort of stuff being used in their infrastructure. The UK, of course, thinks it's all fine. And it will be fine, right up to the point where our entire infrastructure is truned off remotely and we go back to the Stone Age in 24 hours flat.Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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7th Dec 2018 3:16 pm
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Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: Cornwall
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I was on a stairs delivery in my big van to a little place called Mylor Harbour near Falmouth.
Soon realised there was a problem as my sat nav app didn't work so just used my map and common sense.
It was obvious there was big outtage somewhere.
Got to the drop, it was bliss, small little harbour tucked away where you could not really find it, peaceful and calm.
no calls, no emails, no texts. Sat there for a good 30 mins enjoying the peace.
Thanks o2 i needed that at this time of year.
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Pelyma wrote:
RRSTDV8 wrote:
This is a foretelling of the issues that will occur when we have "bad relations" with Russia / China etc. While we spend billions on nukes etc, they are putting lots of effort in ways of attacking our infrastructure.
Think no power, no comms, no anything, all at the press of a button in Beijing.
What makes you think we won't do the same?
I have no doubt that GCHQ would be able to do some stuff to annoy the Chinese - I doubt it would be anywhere as disruptive to the Chinese as it will be to us, however.
China, particularly, makes most of this stuff. They have already been caught putting in "naughty chips" in to stuff. Several nations are now trying to prevent this sort of stuff being used in their infrastructure. The UK, of course, thinks it's all fine. And it will be fine, right up to the point where our entire infrastructure is truned off remotely and we go back to the Stone Age in 24 hours flat.
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7th Dec 2018 3:42 pm
rrhool
Member Since: 28 Aug 2014
Location: Norfolk
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HWN wrote:
The shortest measurable period of time: that between the broadband connection glitching and my children shouting about it.
I'd say the same, but it's when I turn the WiFi off to gain their attention!Richard
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7th Dec 2018 3:45 pm
Sheepy
Member Since: 20 Feb 2013
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 630
RRSTDV8 wrote:
China, particularly, makes most of this stuff. They have already been caught putting in "naughty chips" in to stuff.
Er, no they haven't. A journalist with a walter-mitty-esque imagination wrote an article claiming they had. And aside from hammering the share-price for the company he named as being complicit in it, nothing further has happened - he's failed to provide a single shred of evidence to back up the article despite claiming to have multiple sources. No tampered kit has surfaced - there was supposedly lots of it in circulation, the governments of the world couldn't have managed to suppress the story by hiding every single one. And even if the kit was tampered with, the claims he made about what this chip could do was not credible.
7th Dec 2018 4:56 pm
icestationzebra
Member Since: 05 Nov 2008
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 597
Haven't BT announced that that as part of their corporate policy they are removing Huawei equipment from their infrastructure?
icestationzebra - Yes - but only "core" equipment, and "core"has yet to be defined!
This is what BT have said:-
Quote:
“In 2016, following the acquisition of EE, we began a process to remove Huawei equipment from the core of our 3G and 4G networks, as part of network architecture principles in place since 2006.
We’re applying these same principles to our current RFP for 5G core infrastructure. As a result, Huawei have not been included in vendor selection for our 5G core.
Huawei remains an important equipment provider outside the core network, and a valued innovation partner.”
BT have, as yet, not fully defined "core". Certain major bits of kit are apparent not core including roadside cabinets!
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8th Dec 2018 9:32 am
Ja92mie
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1259
Apparently receiving credit for two days of airtime. As an apology.
8th Dec 2018 12:07 pm
astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: MIDLANDS
Posts: 8143
I’d image 99% plus O2 users ‘lost’ nothing at all, just the ‘ compensation culture greed expecting their ‘entitlement’
I’m on about those baying for ‘more’, not comment on above
8th Dec 2018 4:15 pm
James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Riyadh, KSA
Posts: 3079
My personal mobile is O2 and has been for 19 years. I have to admit, for what I pay per month, to have 24x7 voice and data coverage in about 90% of the places I spend time in over the space of the year, I can forgive the odd outage. I wouldn't expect anything with 100% complete resilience for anywhere near the price of £18 per month.D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
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8th Dec 2018 4:24 pm
Ja92mie
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1259
I had no data or signal for the whole day. I pay over £100 a month for mine and SWMBOs phone.
8th Dec 2018 4:58 pm
astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: MIDLANDS
Posts: 8143
So a fiver should cover a one off event
8th Dec 2018 5:09 pm
Ja92mie
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1259
Absolutely. Something is better than nothing.
8th Dec 2018 5:12 pm
James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Riyadh, KSA
Posts: 3079
Isn't such a huge monthly bill more about the handsets you're paying for though rather than the service itself? Or are you paying for something different?D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
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