Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920
Off Road Towing Limit for Aussie D3?
Don't know where to confirm this. In the latest Australian 4WD Monthly there is an article called Tow & Go. It is about techniques for towing trailers and aimed at off roaders. It was a write up about a training organisation called Tow-Ed.
One thing the writer (Pat Callinan) learnt from attending this course specifically mentioned the D3. He noted that The new 2.6t Discovery 3 has an off-roading capacity of just 1t. Of course no one really knows Land Rover's definition of 'off-road'.
Now I bought mine with the intention of towing a 2.5t Bushtracker (heavy duty off road van) to those places where the average vanner would not dream of going, let alone attempting.
Anybody else aware of that very limiting off road towing capacity in Australia?LeighW
The old girl is on her third engine...
* first ran a bearing (design failure in original engine)
* second had a failure of the water outlet on top of the engine (pls check yours)
15th Jun 2007 5:35 am
SPOTTER
Member Since: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Adrift........
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Hi LeighW
I think that is LR's standard wording, the manual for my Defender (UK) was the same, 3500kg (4000kg with air brakes) and 1000kg "off road".
I always assumed "off road" meant camel trophy type stuff.... end of an era ....... maybe a Defender when it appears.......
15th Jun 2007 5:56 am
captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1095
SPOTTER wrote:
I always assumed "off road" meant camel trophy type stuff....
until you call LR assistance. In such a case, even an unpaved farmers road is "off-road". Even when it is listed on the tomtom.
15th Jun 2007 7:49 am
LeighW D3 Decade
Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920
I can't find any reference (other than 3500 kg) in my manual. Anyone else find anything relevant?
LeighLeighW
The old girl is on her third engine...
* first ran a bearing (design failure in original engine)
* second had a failure of the water outlet on top of the engine (pls check yours)
15th Jun 2007 8:05 am
SPOTTER
Member Since: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Adrift........
Posts: 3095
Got my "The Land ROver Experience" Book out which while it predates the... D3 has a chapter on off road towing.
Emphasises this 1000kg limit a lot....explains it is due to increased inertia effects and also due to trailer suspension normally being fairly primitive.......obviously it has several paragraphs rather than just these words.....it also recommends upgrading the ball hitch from the UK standard one even for only 1000Kg.end of an era ....... maybe a Defender when it appears.......
15th Jun 2007 2:54 pm
Martin Krutli
Member Since: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 229
Off road towing
I'd suggest it relates to the leverage effect that can be greated thru extreme articulation (eg dropping into a creek bed) placing too much load on the pathetic standard plow. A Tregg hitch will reduce the issue ( although the load transfer will still occurr). Interestingly there is no differentiation for most 4WDs between on and off-road towing weights. I, for one, would totally ignore the comment.
They obviously haven't seen modern, off road camper trailers with fully independent, long travel suspension.
Cheers,
Martin
16th Jun 2007 2:23 am
Rob Bruce
Member Since: 18 Jun 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 687
OFF ROAD towing weight
In my opinion 1 tonne would be max for a trip containing medium to hard conditions ,
It would be unplesent to tow larger than a 6 x 4 size trailer in rough conditions and I dont
like to go over 800 kgs.
As for why LR may say no more than 1 tonne off road it would cover them in there product
liability insurance in the case someone with no common sence does something stupid like towing
3500 kg up some steep and rough fire trail and pranging the whole cabuse !
Rob Bruce
17th Jun 2007 5:34 am
LeighW D3 Decade
Member Since: 31 Jan 2006
Location: Brisbane, AUS
Posts: 920
LeighW wrote:
I can't find any reference (other than 3500 kg) in my manual. Anyone else find anything relevant?
RTFM, Leigh!!
Argh! I just discovered the following information in the section of the PDF version of the manual termed
Quote:
Towing - TOWING WEIGHTS & DIMENSIONS
So it does pay to read the manual after all...
LeighLeighW
The old girl is on her third engine...
* first ran a bearing (design failure in original engine)
* second had a failure of the water outlet on top of the engine (pls check yours)
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