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gstuart
 


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Hi Flack

So sorry mate , me and my big mouth , Bow down
   
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Motolab
 


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Pete K wrote:
a other jobbie which allows u to undo the crank bolt with massive force required


Regarding the massive force...... how did you do it?? Or how do others do this?

I have tried a few things now...very long bar, air tool, etc.. no movement...
As an extra challenge... the engine is out of the car... on a 450kg engine stand, but not sure it will hold on just 4 m 10 10.6 grade bolts in cast iron.. Confused

Any suggestions?
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Harold

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Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc. Wink 
 
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DN
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I found that heating the pulley bolt gently with a plumbers gas torch, reduced the torque necessary to undo it. Obviously you don’t do that when tightening the new bolt. You might be better off leaving the final torqueing of the bolt, until the engine is bolted back in the vehicle. Thumbs Up
 D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years. 

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Pete K
 


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long scaffold bar

engine was in car
  
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Motolab
 


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Thanks both of you..

Heating the bolt is a good idea.. will give that a try Thumbs Up ( at the two engines I have separate from a car...)

Regarding final tightening, that is what I also thought... wait until the replacement engine is in the car again 😉
 Best regards
Harold

Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year

Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc. Wink 
 
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Motolab
 


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Heating the bolt did the bolt job on the small-block on the stand today!

So, top tip Thumbs Up
 Best regards
Harold

Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year

Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc. Wink 
 
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DN
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Well done Harold Thumbs Up
 D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.  
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nbarna
 


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I would like to request some help with how I can lock the crankshaft with a manual gearbox. (oil pump replacement)
In the timing locking pin set, the manual gearbox-locking tool looks very weak.
I saw that auto gearbox pin enough strength to hold the crank, but I have manual.

I tried to find the correct tool 303-1123, but it is hell expensive.

Is it a workable way that saw in Flack’s PDF manual?

  
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Flack
 


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I would advise if you have never done anything like this before then you need the proper kit to lock the crank.
That picture was taken 10 years ago when I was designing my own locking tool.
Ask on the board tools come up after a member has finished the oil pump change.

Flack Thumbs Up
 

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Flack
 


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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-LAND-ROV...Sw9mFWHGlg

The tool for the manual is strong enough for the job.

Flack Thumbs Up
  
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G3Z
 


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Thanks for the link, Flack.

Might be a silly question - but does that kit work for the front and rear belt?
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Jamiehol
 


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Flack wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-LAND-ROVER-2-7d-Timing-Setting-Locking-Tool-Kit-S-Type-TDVi-TDV6-2004-09/391780081715?epid=15011064537&hash=item5b37e9a033:g:GNsAAOSw9mFWHGlg

The tool for the manual is strong enough for the job.

Flack Thumbs Up


Talk about timing was just about to post asking for recommendations for timing locking tools before I tackle the pump and belt on my Disco 3.
  
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nbarna
 


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Thanks to the info Flack.

I already have the toolset that you linked.
I thought that better to lock the crank front and rear when tightening the nut.
  
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Pete K
 


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There is this tool at £100

Pete K wrote:
Pete K wrote:
I see Jaguar do a tool to lock the crank.
303-1123

It goes in where the alignment tool goes,
but has teeth on to grab the end of the flywheel

Be nice if a manufacture made some. Hint Hint !


https://jlrequipment.service-solutions.com...U=303-1123
  
Post #21438505th May 2020 6:23 pm
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Flack
 


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#G3Z You dont need any locking tool for the rear belt when doing the D3 one, its just for the crank and cam shafts on the front belt.

Flack Thumbs Up
  
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