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sarumlight
Member Since: 07 Nov 2008
Location: Off the Plain
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Probably in the first 300,000 miles!
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 7th Sep 2021 9:02 pm |
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paulb33
Member Since: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Penarth, near Cardiff
Posts: 74
  
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I’ll take it
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| 7th Sep 2021 9:14 pm |
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MJA
Member Since: 08 Jul 2021
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 85
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It's just the crank fail (£12k for a new LR engine fitted or half that for a rebuild) and other areas where you might get a big bill - inlets, turbos.
Crank seems to be small percentage of engines but the best you can do is look after it - drive with mechanical sympathy and keep an eye on the oil levels - fuel door says check every 600miles and I bet most people don't - running low on oil won't do your crank shells much good at all, especially on a torquey engine like these. Land Rover(s) : '10 Discovery 4
Other daily: '13 Seat Exeo ST 170
Toys: '95 VW Corrado VR6 | '96 VW Golf GTI 16v | '91 VW Golf GTI 16v
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| 8th Sep 2021 12:36 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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I was in a similar position, but with a pretty much mint condition 280K D3.
Can highly recommend keeping the D3 and using it for tip runs, camping, mucky kids, parking in rough spots etc and then I totally love the D5 which is used for my work and long trips.
If I had to have one car... might be a bit more tempted by a Defender, but for the times we really want what a Defender brings, there's the D3, and for the rest of the time, there's the D5. All in, D5 + D3 probably actually costs less than 1 Defender. If you have a good D3 and can easily afford a D5/Defender, it's almost pointless selling an old D3...just keep it until it dies! 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 9th Sep 2021 10:58 pm |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 3292
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ps...
paulb33 wrote:...D5 depreciation terms...
A lot of peoples (mine included!) are appreciating!  2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 9th Sep 2021 11:01 pm |
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paulb33
Member Since: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Penarth, near Cardiff
Posts: 74
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John C wrote:I was in a similar position, but with a pretty much mint condition 280K D3.
Can highly recommend keeping the D3 and using it for tip runs, camping, mucky kids, parking in rough spots etc and then I totally love the D5 which is used for my work and long trips.
Really helpful thanks!
How do you find the interior space / family practicality of the D5 v D3?
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| 13th Sep 2021 6:38 am |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
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Family practicality I guess depends on what we’re doing…
If we want to go the beach or out for a muddy walk with the dogs, we take the D3. If we want to get somewhere a long distance away - we take the D5. We have a large dog box in the D3 which makes getting the third row seats out tricky… and I’ve not put the dogs in the D5.
The 306 SD6 in the D5 is light years away from our 2005 TDV6 - you really notice it at motorway speeds particularly in how low it revs… and radar cruise is superb. The D3 was always effortless cruising to the south of France… but the D5 is in another league. On journeys with the kids, I think everyone definitively arrives a bit more relaxed! The second row seats recline too - ours are out of car seats, but the reclining seats help them sleep on long journeys. The kids sit a bit higher and have a better view from the D3. Maybe I’m getting old, but the motorised and ease at which you can deploy 7 seats in the D5 is much better. Inside, we’ve got boot protectors and seat covers, so that’s all fine.
Space wise for the boot, the D5 looks loads smaller than the D3, but in practice isn’t that much… I guess it depends on how often you really cram the boot! I think the one place you notice it is in the tapered shape. We have a TransK9 dog box that took almost all the space in our D3, and it only just fits into the D5.
For me, I think the only real downsides of the D5 in terms of family practicality is :
1. The length of the boot drop down (small kids swinging their legs hit the bumper)
2. The black gloss trim around the car seems to mark (perhaps not to your extent!) much more easily than the matt black tough plastic finish of the D3.
3. Rear cup holders (The floor/tray ones in the D3 are really handy. There are no rear cupholders if you don’t use the centre armrest (if you are moving three kids).
Given a world of global pandemics, climate change and goodness knows what else we have to get used to, those don’t seem to be big things to suck up and live with! 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 13th Sep 2021 8:49 am |
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paulb33
Member Since: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Penarth, near Cardiff
Posts: 74
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Excellent summary: thank you! We’re looking at Defender and Merc upgrade. Will look again at the D5 based on this!!
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| 14th Sep 2021 11:11 am |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 15213
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Just be aware that John C's review is his D5 306 SD6 in comparison to his D3 2.7 TDV6
The car you drive is a D4 3.0 SDV6
Although body commodities on the D4 are much the same as the D3, the engine & drive characteristics aren't.
btw, not making any claims as to which is best/worse .... just stating. I was a normal heterosexual chap, but in these new woke awakenings I now identify as a Wardrobe.
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| 14th Sep 2021 11:59 am |
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John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 3292
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Good point! 
A colleague has a 3.0 D4 SDV6 which I think in terms of drive and power is very different from our D3 (and our D3 is exceptionally well maintained - like new). My D5 is similarly very different from that D4. THe SD6 is a bit of a dragster! 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
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| 14th Sep 2021 5:05 pm |
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Dixie Dean
Member Since: 06 May 2006
Location: Halewood
Posts: 298
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I would get the bad bits of paintwork sorted and just have the rest restored/refinished/polished. I had my steps galvanised and painted the aluminium edges the same body colour. I also had the wheels finished in the same colour. 2008 D3 HSE Stornoway Grey with Ebony Leather, towing a Coachman VIP 575
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| 14th Sep 2021 5:54 pm |
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paulb33
Member Since: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Penarth, near Cardiff
Posts: 74
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I’ve sourced a salvage bonnet for £75, side steps for £160, mirror £60, etc. Must say it’s transforming the vehicle for little money. Rather fun too… 👌
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| 14th Sep 2021 9:23 pm |
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