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Roel
 


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I thought overheating the rope was only an issue when letting somebody down a hill. But will the drum get also very hot when whinching up a hill? I know the motor does.
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The drum will get hot winching up or down hill from the heat from the motor generated through pulling or resistant ascent. Thumbs Up
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I have thermoplastic (Delrin) fairlead rollers which are designed for synthetic lines Thumbs Up

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Bodsy wrote:
The drum will get hot winching up or down hill from the heat from the motor generated through pulling or resistant ascent. Thumbs Up


Main issue from heat is lowering out when the brake acts on the drum itself. The better winches (Superwinch etc) have the brake acting on the gearing and not the drum, this stops the excessive heat build up Thumbs Up
  
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Ireland 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S Manual Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

sideview wrote:
I have thermoplastic (Delrin) fairlead rollers which are designed for synthetic lines Thumbs Up


Have you ever had any issues with the line snagging in the roller corners Tammy and does your winch use gear braking or drum braking as CFB mentions above ?
  
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Haven't had any issues with snagging or anything Wex. All the edges and surface are smooth so that could account for it. My winch has the gearbox braking (superwinch ep9).
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Post #36145217th Oct 2008 7:38 pm
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And you should never use a Plasma rope through a fairlead that has ever had a wire used through it. Wires can cut almost invisible grooves in a fairlead leaving sharp edges that will cut your plasma very quickly.
We use Dynema based ropes on my ship we have designated fairleads for them so there is no chance any towing wire can be used through the same lead for a rope. BTW our Dynema ropes come in at £20k a pop for a 220m length of 40mm rope and we have 10 of those! http://containerinfo.co.ohost.de/vessel_9299927.html
The winches are slightly larger than those on the front of a D3, they are about the same size as a D3!
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Definitely use a hawse fairlead with "plasma" - while you might get away with rollers for a long time, the risk is there to damage the rope...

MTBW.

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