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Agreed, Roger Young’s have a good service department but do bear in mind that they installed a mechanical, roll over, car wash about 18 months ago and that’s what happen to my last you car when they last “washed” it
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12th Aug 2018 4:20 pm
Cellerdweller
Member Since: 05 Oct 2012
Location: Macclesfield
Posts: 1315
The D3 i had was not the most reliable thing i have owned. It suffered all the usual problems that are well documented on here Air suspension issues Turbo issues etc and thevlist goes on .I turned it into my hobby as many on here have done also but eventually it wore me down and enough was enough . It was well maintained and wanted for nothing those that know me know what im like with my cars . So i decided to part with it and went the VAG route. I have a 2012 Q7 so old shape .it does everything very well and has not faulted since purchase last Nov . I do miss the split tailgate its not quite as comfortable and its boot space is not as big .However it pulls my caravan effortlessly which is what it had to do more than anything .
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13th Aug 2018 7:27 am
HSELR4
Member Since: 16 Nov 2017
Location: Manchester
Posts: 107
As the OP, I thought I’d update.
Dealer said they’d sorted the restricted performance issue... on the way home from the dealer it came up again. I had to wait to take it back in - in that time, I got the message again but this time in red with genuine speed restricted; managed to get home. LR assist came and diagnosed another fault, different to the one two weeks previous.
It’s now back in at dealer. This is a two owner / approved used / 3 year old / 40k mile vehicle. I’ve finally had enough and I’m looking at alternatives. If I didn’t use my car for long journeys and travel: I may stomach such a shoddy build quality because of the way it drives. But I can’t trust it to get me across Europe. A friends MY12 D4 makes him feel the same way!
I lost this battle but hope to win the war
8th Sep 2018 12:33 am
tayaste
Member Since: 15 May 2013
Location: Chester
Posts: 7633
Good luck for the future, let us know what vehicle you finally decide on.
8th Sep 2018 1:01 am
MrBrain
Member Since: 12 Mar 2014
Location: bucks
Posts: 471
I think I might be about to buy a Honda CR-V as a daily drive...
When I looked at a "things to check on a secondhand buy" checklist it said "tyres, shocks"..... I spent some time metaphorically staring at the almost black sheet, and comparing it to the three page D3 list....
I do have a 90, a 110, and am buying a D3 too.
8th Sep 2018 7:47 am
stephenw46
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1154
I owned a D3 for 7.5 years had the oil pump changed as a precaution had the egr valves blanked but it was a manual and prone for clutches to wich I had three two under warranty loved it that much upgraded to my D4 it was also a used approved it’s had a couple of issues but mainly due to the incompetence of the dealership I purchased it off but I use a different dealership for the service and have done four trips to Europe with the tin hut trouble free and love it but with all modern cars they all have to many electronics to go wrong But some are more reliable then others I did consider the Hyundai but once I drove the D4 I had to have it just hope she serves me as well as the D3
8th Sep 2018 9:46 am
Red Merle
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Location: Liskeard
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8th Sep 2018 10:29 am
stephenw46
Member Since: 22 Jun 2011
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1154
I think I would be well off if my car was at the dealership that long , but just out of interest what is actually up with the car for it to be taking so long to repair?
8th Sep 2018 12:43 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
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If you have a copy of what I’d written in the post about be (but removed later) via a notification email, May I have a copy to put back up?
Until I know all the facts, I’m reluctant to post what I know so far to avoid starting rumours, but it is safe to say that it throws up an engine management fault, followed a week later by “restricted performance”. I was disappointed when I was originally asked to continue driving for a month, until it was due for its next service, only to be presented with the red triangle of doom only a week later.
3 weeks & no word from LR yet
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8th Sep 2018 1:10 pm
HSELR4
Member Since: 16 Nov 2017
Location: Manchester
Posts: 107
Another update; because they cannot get the Resricted Performance to show (even though I had it come up and Land Rover assist did NOT wipe the code or any such thing) - they say that as they can not replicate the issue; I’m to have my car back. I go to Europe in three weeks and so once again, I can’t trust the car to make it.
I asked why they need to recreate the issue and message if it’s there in the computer for all to see. They say they cannot get the warranty company to cough up for the part they think it might be; without them being able recreate the problem.
I said I’d had enough of such pathetic build and quality control issues on such a young car and asked them to buy it back from me. They’ve come back with a price and I’m considering it. Would save me me messing around selling it privately. The part they ‘think’ it is is £400. I was so fed up, I didn’t take in what it was. But something related to the turbo; some inlet or servo or something.
10th Sep 2018 7:18 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6565
A cracked/split inlet manifold would be visible.. one would assume.
I guess a video wouldn’t be good enough?
10th Sep 2018 7:22 pm
James1974
Member Since: 23 Nov 2017
Location: Stevenage
Posts: 990
Re: Putting up with LR cars... when is it time to move on!?
HSELR4 wrote:
I love my D4. Before this; I’ve also had an Evoque and a Disco Sport. My other half has an Evoque and other family members have LR’s ranging from full fat RR to Freelanders etc.
The common thread, unfortunately, is that they’ve all had issues of one sort or another. The worst was my Evoque went into limp mode in the middle of France and LR assist could not locate a hire car for us. So they paid over 1000 euros to get us to our destination on time (can’t fault the service). But when the car was repatriated, it was fixed and then the fault reoccurred. Was nothing major; just a hose cracked and come loose... but I’d lost faith in the car and didn’t want to travel across Europe again in that (something I do a lot).
And now, my D4 seems to be suffering a few niggles. It’s a MY15 and was approved used. 40k miles on clock. I’ve just had the restricted performance flash up. I was actually due to be on my way to France now! But had to delay the trip. This could have happened deep into France - and I’d have had a messy situ on my hands.
I think I’m tired of it all and whilst I love LR products; I’d rather a car that simply gets me to where I’m going without a fuss.
One question I have... if I went for a D5, but the 2 litre engine over the 3... I wonder if it’s less prone to issues?
I had this as well this year going up a mountain in southern france but plugged my iid tool in and cleared it and carried on
My advice to any Land Rover owner is get yourself a iid tool or a fault mate as that saves a lot of hassle I managed to plug mine in and clear the fault without even stopping don’t know what it was but never appeared againDisco 3 gone but not forGotten
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11th Sep 2018 10:10 pm
HSELR4
Member Since: 16 Nov 2017
Location: Manchester
Posts: 107
Interesting. Could you link to such a tool; amazon or eBay?
11th Sep 2018 11:39 pm
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
Location: Surrey / SW London
Posts: 2136
HSELR4 wrote:
Another update; because they cannot get the Resricted Performance to show (even though I had it come up and Land Rover assist did NOT wipe the code or any such thing) - they say that as they can not replicate the issue; I’m to have my car back. I go to Europe in three weeks and so once again, I can’t trust the car to make it.
I asked why they need to recreate the issue and message if it’s there in the computer for all to see. They say they cannot get the warranty company to cough up for the part they think it might be; without them being able recreate the problem.
I said I’d had enough of such pathetic build and quality control issues on such a young car and asked them to buy it back from me. They’ve come back with a price and I’m considering it. Would save me me messing around selling it privately. The part they ‘think’ it is is £400. I was so fed up, I didn’t take in what it was. But something related to the turbo; some inlet or servo or something.
Turbo shut off valve? I think they can seize up a bit. There is a procedure on here you could check yourself and free up if it’s stiff.
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12th Sep 2018 7:31 am
dgardel
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HSELR4 wrote:
Interesting. Could you link to such a tool; amazon or eBay?
PM to Dan at Duckworthparts, LR dealer and sponsor here.
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off if my car was at the dealership that long , but just out of interest what is actually up with the car for it to be taking so long to repair?
