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mark the spark wrote:
.....but the road was there when you bought the house
The 40mph limit was there when I bought the house too, but the bikers ignore it!Richard
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1st Jun 2020 9:23 am
Grumpydog
Member Since: 10 Apr 2019
Location: Medway/ Mos Eisley
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Hardware wrote:
Grunders wrote:
Not all of them are illegal, I have one on mine, it is louder than stock but gives a lovely noise, much like the sports exhaust on a Mercedes C63 or Audi RS models,
And it looks a lot better than the standard
You're not one of the ones on the East Lancs every couple of days are you ?
it's at least 200 yds from me and they're revving the nuts out of them … deffo 2 bikes, deffo racing. going off the revs, I reckon they're red-lining in 2nd on some serious bikes then dropping off for the speed cameras (although some days I don't think they give a sh i t ). So what's that going to be ? above 70 in a 40 zone ?
like I said, 200 yds min and it's loud here. gosh knows what it's like close up.
and - aside from the noise - I don't give a damn. It's what the A580 was made for, isn't it ?
Redline in 2nd on a modern sports bike? Probably nearer 100mph. I had a Suzuki GSXR600 from 2007 and it would do 84mph in first. The rest of the gearing was rather closer in ratios. I think it would hit 130 in third, with a rated top speed of 167. They are way too much for the road if ridden anywhere near their limits.2004 Disco 3 HSE TDV6
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1st Jun 2020 9:56 am
Charliecloud
Member Since: 31 Jul 2014
Location: Tonbridge
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rrhool wrote:
mark the spark wrote:
.....but the road was there when you bought the house
The 40mph limit was there when I bought the house too, but the bikers ignore it!
I feel your pain. Our bungalow in Camber is on the Rye to Lydd run and has a 30mph limit inc one of those signs that show you your speed. Last summer I was mowing front grass and a Kawasaki with obligatory loud pipe showed 80mph as he went past Now I am a fast car & bike lover, but as with all things there is a time and a place. Cars are equally as bad, WRX with drainpipe exhaust and lives locally is as equally painful on the ears.
1st Jun 2020 10:51 am
defector
Member Since: 23 Feb 2009
Location: Greater Manchester
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'And as for that CBX when it downshifted i nearly went off in my undies Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing'
After listening to that for the umpteenth time in the last few days, my wife passed me a tissue and asked me to wipe the drool of one side of my mouth
Women just do not understand
1st Jun 2020 12:56 pm
James W
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My original post was of course tongue in cheek but I see a few others have similar problems.
I too love vehicles, engines, a powerful engine tone - But I've been to enough track day volume tests to know what a performance vehicle with a decent exhaust sounds like versus this - The roundabout near us is about 100m away but in the evenings in particular some bikes/riders firing a piercing, crackling exhaust still cause me to instinctively make me put my hands over my ears due to the painful sound level, and have made the girls burst into tears once or twice. I already have a mild tinnitus from years of DJing... From a safety perspective alone some of these extreme pipes need to be removed from bikes driven on the roads, especially if the riders are wanting to ride so hard (like Richard, this is also a 40 limit )
Gareth - I'd never heard of this.. a sound based - we need one here!! Would pay for itself in days I'm sure Might suggest it to the local Roads Policing Unit
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1st Jun 2020 1:01 pm
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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Isn't it ironic that motorcyclist have the need to wear earplugs?
...... always on the road less travelled 🚧
1st Jun 2020 1:28 pm
J@mes
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Location: Bomber County
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Which is nothing to do with exhaust noise as its behind you, that's to do with the wind noise around the helmet.2014 D4 XS
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1st Jun 2020 3:22 pm
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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Speaking from my riding experiences I have to disagree with you there James.
The noise doesn't just start rearward of the exhaust, but do agree it is louder in its wake....... always on the road less travelled 🚧
1st Jun 2020 3:55 pm
J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
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Fair enough, my riding experience is that the exhaust (aftermarket and loud) was never an issue, whereas the wind was 2014 D4 XS
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1st Jun 2020 4:52 pm
pjm-84
Member Since: 04 Oct 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 2592
I use to wear earplugs on long journeys. I was persuaded by the garage to put a Micron race can (non road legal) on my Fireblade (after an accident and as part of the insurance claim). This was way back in 1992 when bikes were muted and exhausts weighed a minimum of twice of what was required. The race can was great in traffic as the horn was rubbish. Used more than once to raise attention
When I got back in biking in 2010, end cans were first on the shopping list. That was until I started the bike up. I couldn't believe how loud it was in standard trim and even more so with the sport mapping selected. I assume being Italian it was just pushing the boundaries of legality.
I then bought a BMW 1200GSA, thought about a nice ti Akrapovic can and again a tad surprised on the legality of the noise. My dogs could hear me riding down a road 200metres away. (I live in town)
1st Jun 2020 5:55 pm
Charliecloud
Member Since: 31 Jul 2014
Location: Tonbridge
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I have always worn earplugs, even when they were just like stuffing cotton wool into your ears. Several years ago I bought a set of made to measure with a db cutout in them. Perfect for use in the helmet and when on a DLT comp My old 954 blade had a aftermarket exhaust with a remove-able baffle. It was a touch too loud without it fitted. My current S1000R has a factory Akrapovic fitted and is just about perfect as it's only really loud above 9k
1st Jun 2020 6:10 pm
Ken
Member Since: 20 Feb 2006
Location: Here
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Loud pipes save lives
1st Jun 2020 6:31 pm
SpiderBaby D3 Decade
Member Since: 21 Sep 2007
Location: Liverpool
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Had opportunity to run about on a CBX back in the 80s - with a 6 into 1 on.
Now that could howl a wee bit but in my defence I was younger and stupider.
Have a Jota in the garage - but my age related deafness makes it seem quietI see no ships........
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2nd Jun 2020 4:10 am
astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: MIDLANDS
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I can't believe the disparity in noise that comes from stock exhausts let alone aftermarket cans.
I've had brand-new stock bikes that absolutely wail (Aprilia Tuono V4, BMW K1300R), bikes with legal aftermarket 'pipes (KTM990, ZZR1100) that sounded even louder and then also bikes with stock exhausts that you can hardly hear until very high revs (my current Ducati Desert sled is an example).
Back in the late noughties there was a bit of a trade in buying a little plate you pop-riveted to your exhaust that showed it was 'road legal'. MOT's of that time pretty much just looked for that plate and that was it, pass certificate written out.
To now hear 'bikes like Harley's and, particularly, supermoto style 'bikes I often think "how the hell is that road legal?"
I don't think 'bikers help themselves TBH, I can sort of get (and have done it many times myself) cracking the throttle on a clear straight road but even when pootling through small villages to hold the 'bike in too low a gear just to have the over-run pops and crackles of your exhaust, as many do, just marks you out as a w r
Same as full-throttle take-off from the lights, why? A fairly modest bike of 600cc or more will pretty much whip anything from the lights without too much effort so what are they trying to prove
I live not far from the A46 in Stratford-upon-Avon and you can hear 'bikes doing full throttle acceleration with quick-shifts through the gears for probably 3-4 miles or more when roads are quiet. For that noise and acceleration they will be doing 140+ mph, easily
Whilst cars and 'bikes are generally being set up to pass drive-by-noise regs these are no different to fuel economy tests, the 'problem' is just elsewhere in the rev range and/or a very nice to have aftermarket can is pushed as part of a deal. The amount of 'performance' cars/bikes that sound like thunder is more the norm than years ago to me, straight from the factory!
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