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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
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Am I missing something. Even before the French decided to shut the doors yesterday to travel into France, there were long ques of trucks waiting to get into Dover, but pretty much all the news reports are about shortages of stuff coming into the UK, but the que they keep showing is/was for outbound trucks.
And even with the restriction entering France its my understanding that trucks can still get into the UK.
???
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 21st Dec 2020 8:40 am |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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There are suggestions that non-UK drivers may be reluctant to enter the UK in case they can't get home before Christmas. Containers and other unaccompanied freight can still get in, of course. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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| 21st Dec 2020 8:44 am |
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Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
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Yes but you wouldn’t drive a truck on a one way mission only for it to be parked up beside the motorway for days on end and spend your Christmas Day parked on your own on the M20....
This is what we get for knee jerk u turns.....
For every action there is a consequence...our idiots still haven’t realised this....
It’s a shambles.
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| 21st Dec 2020 8:45 am |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
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There have been images and press coverage of the queues in Calais, which are pretty much the same.
The challenge will be around foreign drivers being willing to travel to the UK. Alongside of the risk of the new strain, it's the problem and risk of being trapped in the UK if they can't get back. With Christmas four days away, many won't risk it.
I'm hoping my new car has made it across from Zeebrugge. 
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| 21st Dec 2020 8:46 am |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
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I admire them for doing it, if China had done this 9 months ago the world wouldn’t be in the predicament it’s in now. It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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| 21st Dec 2020 8:51 am |
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Trailered Movements
Member Since: 16 Jan 2020
Location: East/West Sussex Coast Borders
Posts: 1200
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Many eastern european trucks arrive in the UK with little or nothing in their trailers, then wait for an export load.
The vast majority of the drivers are not paid for the days 'doing nothing'.
The cost of running trucks in these countries is maybe 10% of those which UK trucks have to pay, and don't be fooled by them all having newish trucks, they don't pay anything like what we do here.
To some, spending Christmas in their trucks is accepted to have a fairly 'home' decent wage.
Those with no knowledge of the trucking industry should not make comments that are total b******s, and serve only for your constant bashing of anything and everything you don't agree with.
We have a Tory government and will be out of the EU in a few days, the majority wanted both, now get over it!
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| 21st Dec 2020 8:58 am |
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DG
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50978
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Who'd have thought EU countries can unilaterally choose to close their borders eh  21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 21st Dec 2020 8:59 am |
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RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13556
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Trailered Movements wrote:
We have a Tory government and will be out of the EU in a few days, the majority wanted both, now get over it!
Dave
Well, the majority didn't want either but the system we have gave us that outcome. But this is not the place for that discussion. We have those in the under-stairs cupboard marked "Off topic - Politics".  Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
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| 21st Dec 2020 9:06 am |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8230
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Trailered Movements wrote:............
Those with no knowledge of the trucking industry should not make comments that are total b******s, and serve only for your constant bashing of anything and everything you don't agree with.
Dave
If the above statement had been applied to the Brexit vote we would not be in the turmoil we have been in for the last 3 wasted years. It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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| 21st Dec 2020 9:09 am |
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Farmer Chalk
Member Since: 06 Mar 2013
Location: Independent Republic of Kentishshire.
Posts: 4195
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Trailered Movements wrote:
The cost of running trucks in these countries is maybe 10% of those which UK trucks have to pay, and don't be fooled by them all having newish trucks, they don't pay anything like what we do here.
Those with no knowledge of the trucking industry should not make comments that are total b******s.
Dave
Agreed there! 
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| 21st Dec 2020 9:09 am |
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al cope
Member Since: 08 Nov 2005
Location: Oldbury, WM
Posts: 10354
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yes, but read my post again, these ques were there BEFORE the port shutting, and have been for a few weeks now. Is this just brexit red tape (more paperwork?)
Al Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD
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| 21st Dec 2020 9:11 am |
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Moo
D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14425
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Trailered Movements wrote:Many eastern european trucks arrive in the UK with little or nothing in their trailers, then wait for an export load.
The vast majority of the drivers are not paid for the days 'doing nothing'.
The cost of running trucks in these countries is maybe 10% of those which UK trucks have to pay, and don't be fooled by them all having newish trucks, they don't pay anything like what we do here.
To some, spending Christmas in their trucks is accepted to have a fairly 'home' decent wage.
Those with no knowledge of the trucking industry should not make comments that are total b******s, and serve only for your constant bashing of anything and everything you don't agree with.
We have a Tory government and will be out of the EU in a few days, the majority wanted both, now get over it!
Dave
Someone got out of bed the wrong way. D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
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| 21st Dec 2020 9:12 am |
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M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8230
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 It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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| 21st Dec 2020 9:15 am |
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bigdave
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Member Since: 04 Jul 2008
Location: Cornwall
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Alot of freight companies have been running like we are in WTO rules since the start of November so these ques are less to do with Brexit and more to do with the Christmas rush, more online orders requiring fulfilment, blocked Felixstowe, and a rush of export orders to the EU ahead of a possible no deal.
The French closing borders is less to do with C19 and more a political finger to us.
More and more companies now routing via other ports for the new year.
Just my experience before the drugs kick in.
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| 21st Dec 2020 9:24 am |
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