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Wayne Coombe-Heath
Member Since: 31 Oct 2008
Location: J.H.B
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heine wrote:I was told the Safari one was LRSA approved ?
the only snorkel aproved by LRSA is the Mantec due to U.K Aproval and conditions. they are more expensive but its a whole lot cheaper than paying for a new engine yourself.
R 6050.00 excl fitment. 
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 6th Jul 2009 12:23 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
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Just to be clear. The Mantec is a raised air intake - not a snorkel .
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| 6th Jul 2009 12:30 pm |
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Wayne Coombe-Heath
Member Since: 31 Oct 2008
Location: J.H.B
Posts: 3
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heine wrote:Just to be clear. The Mantec is a raised air intake - not a snorkel .
one and the same thing. the Brits call it a raised air intake and Australia and most of S.A call it a snorkel. The yanks call it anything from raised air intake to cool air intake and anything in betwean.
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| 6th Jul 2009 12:36 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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Nope - the safari is a totally sealed unit allowing you to go deeper than side intake on car (as deep as you would like ) . The mantec is a raised air intake that will still allow water into the engine if you exceed side intake depth
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| 6th Jul 2009 12:40 pm |
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Discoeast
Member Since: 19 Feb 2008
Location: Boksburg
Posts: 800
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Both have valid points, and how deep is deep, how deep is
your pocket  and how accommodating will LR be if
it swallowed water with an approved RAI fitted MMMMMMM 
If you were to get " stuck or stalled " with the water level at
bonnet height, with both systems it will still be a R  shocker.
With the above in mind, my money would be on the Safari, but
I have the Mantec/LR one and have dunked it a few times.
The question is, how long do you want to be so DEEP?
The bottom line is that a non approved product can be better
than the approved one, with no detriment to the vehicle, just
fitted in such a way to enhance their spec, goes a long way.
Food for thought D3 bullbar-spots-roof rack with spots-ladder-long range tank-swing out spare wheel carrier- upgraded tow bar-dash console-internal water tank-duel awnings-drawer system & T T.
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| 6th Jul 2009 7:36 pm |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
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Wayne Coombe-Heath wrote:heine wrote:Just to be clear. The Mantec is a raised air intake - not a snorkel .
one and the same thing. the Brits call it a raised air intake and Australia and most of S.A call it a snorkel. The yanks call it anything from raised air intake to cool air intake and anything in betwean.
Actually I think you will find that Land Rover call it a raised air intake so that what we call it. If you are talking about a water proof raised air intake we would call it a snorkel 
At what point or where does the safari snorkel stop Does it run over the rad and drop down onto the pipe that comes up from the intercooler There is a very poor joint there in the standard vehicle. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 6th Jul 2009 7:55 pm |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Safari one replaces the hose from the air box to the snorkel, all is sealed. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 6th Jul 2009 11:21 pm |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
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caverD3 wrote:Safari one replaces the hose from the air box to the snorkel, all is sealed.
Oh so the standard crap connection to the right of the rad where the pipe drops down is still vulnerable. In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 7th Jul 2009 5:20 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
Posts: 6922
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Do you mean the one after the airbox hels by a hose clamp? “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 7th Jul 2009 6:01 am |
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JF Lux
Member Since: 08 Sep 2007
Location: A little country in Europe
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Isn't it all academic...?
Whether its Mantec RAI or Safari Snorkel, if you go that deep for any period of time aren't you going to  the electronics anyway...?
Just my thoughts...happy to be proven wrong (by someone else's car...I won't be trying it...  ) The next American ex-pat that calls it a "truck" is going to find out what 2.7 tons feels like on their foot...
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Club "yes, I too once had the car at the dealer for a couple of weeks nearly 4 weeks over 4 weeks...5 weeks"
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| 7th Jul 2009 9:09 am |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
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Best nip over to RRSport and ask Very Annoyed about what happens if your car stops for a prolonged period in deep water. I'm sure he'll be more than happy to provide you with a dispassionate summary I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 7th Jul 2009 9:24 am |
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caverD3
Member Since: 03 Jul 2006
Location: Oberon, NSW
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Agree,
Snorkels are like insurance; the Safari has a more watertight policy than the OEM Mantec (pun intended).
The other thing you should do is seal the modules behind the main battery. I coated mine well with 'Plasticote'. “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely gamesâ€
Ernest Hemmingway
D4 3.0 Active Diff, Adaptive Lights, High Beam Assist, Surround Cameras, Privacy Glass.
D3 2.7:Adaptive Headlights,Electronic Rear Diff,ARB Bar,Blaupunkt Speakers,JVC Powered Subwoofer,Removable Snorkel,Mitch Hitch,Pioneer After Market Head Unit,Steering Wheel Control Adaptor,Remote Adjustable Supension Rod System, Taxside Dual Battery System.
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| 7th Jul 2009 10:50 am |
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AndrewS
Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
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caverD3 wrote:Do you mean the one after the airbox hels by a hose clamp?
No the next joint not held by anything just pushed on In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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| 7th Jul 2009 7:25 pm |
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AP Moller
Member Since: 23 Feb 2007
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 246
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caverD3 wrote:Agree,
Snorkels are like insurance; the Safari has a more watertight policy than the OEM Mantec (pun intended).
The other thing you should do is seal the modules behind the main battery. I coated mine well with 'Plasticote'.
Am about to go on trip through Moremi (Kavango, most rain in Botsawana in recorded history) and want to explore - saw the exchanges re snorkel vs the LR Mantec (gimmic? it certainly must work for dust, thus a "RAI" only). The safari (unpretty as it is) seems to be the solution.
Does the CPU/modules behind battery remain in place when you applied plasticote (which one - 70?). Sprayed aerosol on?
What about the air channel beyond the fitting on the r/side of vehicle - is that waterthight?
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| 25th Jul 2009 5:13 pm |
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