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Andrew van den Heever
Member Since: 09 Jun 2007
Location: Cape Town
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Bad day for the Discos today. Went to Atlantis dunes. 1 Disco3, 1 Disco2, and 6 Toyotas.
Disco2 bust a half shaft after about 30 mins. You can imagine what the Toyota boys had to say!
I was then totally humiliated in the soft sand. 2,7 tonnes of Disco 3 could not clear all the obstacles. DSC off, Sand mode -still no help. It's a freakin 4,4L V8 with loads of power, but 18" rims and 60 profile tires just don't cut it. We just can't get enough flotation.
Even the Fortuner was awesome in the sand! My mates Prado put me to shame. 
I left there with a dented ego. Never have I had to back out of any off road technical stuff. The Disco3 rules..... just not in sand....... wimpier 
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 2nd Oct 2011 5:59 pm |
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D4JWW
Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
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I feel for you brother, banter and abuse from toy-otas is bad, would have thought you had a beter chance with the lighter v8 compared to tdv6? Any way one benefit of rumours of closing Atlantis , no more abuse from toy-otas?  A few mods... and keeping it all running...Faultmate MSV2
MY09EGR's blanked Thanks Bellautos, BAS
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| 2nd Oct 2011 8:06 pm |
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amazing
Member Since: 05 Mar 2011
Location: chengdu
Posts: 1542
 
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Sand the Achilles' heel of the disco It is better to have and not need it then need and not have it.
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| 3rd Oct 2011 2:53 am |
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mariusjnr
Member Since: 20 Dec 2009
Location: Gauteng
Posts: 200
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We went to atlantis as well the weekend just friday and saturday, I have 265\70R17 Maxxis fitted. I aired down to about 0.4 bar and I was actually amaized at what you can do with the Disco in sand. I cleared most obstacles with some guidance as its my first time on sand dunes. I will post some pics and vids later. 2012 Discovery 4 SDV6 SE 50mm Suspension Lift, Front Runner RR, Drawers, Tuffstuff Underbody Armour.
2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE 50mm Suspension lift, 33" BFG MT, Rocksliders, Bashplate. 250 000km Sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S, Snorkel, TorqueTune Remap, Club 250 000km, Sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5, Roof rack, Club 250 000km, Drowned 
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| 4th Oct 2011 5:26 am |
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Baben
Member Since: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Kyalami
Posts: 2059
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it's all about pressure - you need a huge surface area to balance 2.7 tons on the surface of sand 
I remember getting stuck a few times in sand even with the big 275/65-18 STT's on. in Angola I let them down to .8 on the dunes and then I had an absolute ball, but i was constantly worried about losing a sidewall.
With smaller tyres you just have more pressure on the sand, and less flotation.
Coarse sand (river sand) always gets me, and I don't know why. I buried the FFRR to its gills in the limpopo river with the MTR's on in Mozambique. It took a bunch of diggin to get out.
I hate to admit it, but I went right out and bought maxxtraxx after that experience. Bloody expensive, but fairly light and easy to toss onto the roofrack.
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| 4th Oct 2011 8:27 am |
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Andrew van den Heever
Member Since: 09 Jun 2007
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 340
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Ja, I have AT2's in 255/60/18. It just doesn't cut it. Gonna go for the STT's or Bighorns. 
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| 4th Oct 2011 10:42 am |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
Posts: 16390
 
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were they land cruisers ?
isnt the Land Cruiser about the same weight as the D3 ?
Kerb weight total maximum (kg / lb)
2720 / 5997.6
Gross vehicle weight total (kg / lb)
3300 / 7276.5
Re STTs, ive had them (and STs) for the last 5 years and they are great tyres - never used them in sand though, but great in snow, water, mud etc and very tough side walls  Duncan
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If I'd known I was going to be so thirsty this morning I'd have drunk more beer last night.
FFRR Autobiography 4.4 SDV8 MY17
D4 HSE MY13 SOLD
FFRR 3.6 Vogue TDV8 SOLD
D4 HSE MY10 SOLD
D4 SE TECH MY15 SOLD
D4 XS MY12 SOLD
D4 HSE MY10 SOLD
D3 HSE MY06 - Re-Cycled Worldwide
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| 4th Oct 2011 10:50 am |
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Andrew van den Heever
Member Since: 09 Jun 2007
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 340
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Dunc. No they were Prados, Fortuners and Hilux's. The Prado is about 500kg lighter, and the rest probably a ton lighter! 
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| 4th Oct 2011 12:50 pm |
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DiscoDunc
Member Since: 08 May 2006
Location: Bristol
Posts: 16390
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Ahh I see - not a fair comparison then. like comparing a mercedes S-class to a Kia Rio !!  Duncan
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If I'd known I was going to be so thirsty this morning I'd have drunk more beer last night.
FFRR Autobiography 4.4 SDV8 MY17
D4 HSE MY13 SOLD
FFRR 3.6 Vogue TDV8 SOLD
D4 HSE MY10 SOLD
D4 SE TECH MY15 SOLD
D4 XS MY12 SOLD
D4 HSE MY10 SOLD
D3 HSE MY06 - Re-Cycled Worldwide
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| 4th Oct 2011 1:25 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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Andrew van den Heever wrote:Ja, I have AT2's in 255/60/18. It just doesn't cut it. Gonna go for the STT's or Bighorns.
Good luck with finding STT's . I can't confirm 100 % but have heard they have been discontinued , so maybe that's why. . I couldn't find a Bighorn that fits in 18 " 
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| 4th Oct 2011 3:58 pm |
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Gazellio
Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Chilterns
Posts: 4130
 
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Just bought a set of Cooper STT in the UK that size.....
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| 4th Oct 2011 4:30 pm |
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heine
Member Since: 07 Feb 2007
Location: Midrand
Posts: 4054
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None available here in seffrica
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| 4th Oct 2011 5:00 pm |
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Rhinoman
Member Since: 22 Jun 2009
Location: Gauteng
Posts: 35
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| Know why baben buried it to the gills |
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cause he likes to bury his right foot to the floor. Seriously though found that on the D3 V8 with 18" rims, need to take pressure down to 0.8 bar, leave the DSC alone (leave it on), low range raised suspension and drive.
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| 4th Oct 2011 8:07 pm |
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mariusjnr
Member Since: 20 Dec 2009
Location: Gauteng
Posts: 200
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A shipment bighorns has just landed, if you need please let me know. 265\70R17 and 275\60R18. I can try source from them. 2012 Discovery 4 SDV6 SE 50mm Suspension Lift, Front Runner RR, Drawers, Tuffstuff Underbody Armour.
2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE 50mm Suspension lift, 33" BFG MT, Rocksliders, Bashplate. 250 000km Sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S, Snorkel, TorqueTune Remap, Club 250 000km, Sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5, Roof rack, Club 250 000km, Drowned
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| 5th Oct 2011 4:50 am |
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WILLF
Member Since: 29 Sep 2011
Location: Cape Town
Posts: 58
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I'll be interested in those Bighorns... 275\60R18 . How do they fit compared to the BFG 265/65R18 's?
I am new in the Disco3 league coming from a Defender stable - but I have only run muds - STT's and BFG MT's for the last 8 years or so. Only once let me down with a side wall gash.
I received the vehicle with Wrangler MTR's on 19" rims. They are pretty shot and not convinced they are buying.
Anybody looking for 4 x 19" rims?  or I may just run road tyres on them...
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| 7th Oct 2011 7:51 am |
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