Member Since: 09 Feb 2020
Location: Tamworth,Staffs
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Spare wheel raised position.
Morning,
I’ve fitted a TF1 fixed tow bar this morning and I’m convinced that it’s impeding the spare from going up high enough.
Photos attached.
Can anyone confirm it is or isn’t in its proper place before I go and get a crobar to try and lever it in!
Many thanks
20th Oct 2020 12:15 pm
pagoda
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Probably it does. I fitted a fixed tow bar (Curt - a US make) that absolutely impedes the use of a full size spare. You may need to get a space saver wheel or suffer the hassle of trying to pry out the spare when needed.PAGODA
can you get it to go in with the rear-ward edge offered up first ?.
Dean
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1. Lower the Spare Wheel.
2. Remove the red plastic insert cover from the central Towbar mounting point.
3. Insert item A into the central mounting point and fix in place using Item F and Item N (See Sketch for
tapered washer (Item N) and Bolt (Item F) orientation).
4. 2005-2008 models - Remove the M14 fixing (X) from the inside face of each chassis, whilst removing
item X loosen receptor bolt on the outside face of chassis at the same time, This will make refitting
item X easier.
5. Using item X loosely fix items B and C to the correct chassis members.
6. 2008> - Locate item K into each chassis member through the enlarged hole on the outside face being
careful not to drop item K inside the chassis.
7. Using item L with item J fix items B and C to the correct chassis members.
8. 2005>- using item G with item H fix items B and C to item A and D.
9. Using item E fix your desired the ball bracket (not supplied in this kit) to item D.
10. Fully tighten all nuts and bolts ensuring Towbar is square rigid and secure.
11. Raise spare wheel to correct location.
so if it doesn't accomodate the spare, give them a call !
20th Oct 2020 3:30 pm
Moo D3 Decade
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20th Oct 2020 3:51 pm
pagoda
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Hardware wrote:
TT instructions ...
Quote:
1. Lower the Spare Wheel.
2. Remove the red plastic insert cover from the central Towbar mounting point.
3. Insert item A into the central mounting point and fix in place using Item F and Item N (See Sketch for
tapered washer (Item N) and Bolt (Item F) orientation).
4. 2005-2008 models - Remove the M14 fixing (X) from the inside face of each chassis, whilst removing
item X loosen receptor bolt on the outside face of chassis at the same time, This will make refitting
item X easier.
5. Using item X loosely fix items B and C to the correct chassis members.
6. 2008> - Locate item K into each chassis member through the enlarged hole on the outside face being
careful not to drop item K inside the chassis.
7. Using item L with item J fix items B and C to the correct chassis members.
8. 2005>- using item G with item H fix items B and C to item A and D.
9. Using item E fix your desired the ball bracket (not supplied in this kit) to item D.
10. Fully tighten all nuts and bolts ensuring Towbar is square rigid and secure.
11. Raise spare wheel to correct location.
so if it doesn't accomodate the spare, give them a call !
It doesn't say 'full sized spare' though. My bar works fine with space saver and the fitting instructions do note that a full sized spare will not fit with the tow bar fitted.PAGODA
20th Oct 2020 3:57 pm
rrhool
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My full size spare (255/55 19) fits just fine with a Tow Trust towbar.Richard
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20th Oct 2020 4:58 pm
BeardManMatt
Member Since: 09 Feb 2020
Location: Tamworth,Staffs
Posts: 54
Cheers all,
It does fit as after much contortion and grazed knuckles I managed to get my hands and arms inside to check the wheel was up far enough into the space provided.
As suggested I needed to get the rear of the spare wheel up into the cavity first and then use the winch to pull the front up.
I think it just looks wrong because the tow bar arms are a new piece of furniture on the landscape!
The big M16 bolt head that secures the tow bar to the chassis is what fouls the spare first.
Anyway here’s some more photos...
20th Oct 2020 6:29 pm
BeardManMatt
Member Since: 09 Feb 2020
Location: Tamworth,Staffs
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Moo wrote:
If you don't have an RLD wheel protector, you should get one.
Until today I didn't know that I did but I do!
20th Oct 2020 7:23 pm
Sea Raider
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It looks like your wheel protector is the problem.
My RLD fits inside the wheel rim and doesn't touch the tyre at all.
What make is your protector as it doesn't look like and RLD one
20th Oct 2020 7:39 pm
Dondiddy
Member Since: 26 Dec 2019
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The wheel protector is the Land Rover one fitted to late model D4`s with Adblue tank fitted
20th Oct 2020 7:43 pm
BeardManMatt
Member Since: 09 Feb 2020
Location: Tamworth,Staffs
Posts: 54
Sea Raider wrote:
It looks like your wheel protector is the problem.
My RLD fits inside the wheel rim and doesn't touch the tyre at all.
What make is your protector as it doesn't look like and RLD one
There is an RLD one inside the spare but like Dondiddy said, mines a late MY16 and has this plastic/composite plate fitted also.
20th Oct 2020 9:03 pm
BeardManMatt
Member Since: 09 Feb 2020
Location: Tamworth,Staffs
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Incidentally I had thought about trimming that plate to aid lifting the wheel up further but there is actually not much room left for it to go upward.
I shall try to squeeze my fingers in there again tomorrow and see if it would achieve much.
20th Oct 2020 9:08 pm
Biffysun
Member Since: 09 Jul 2011
Location: Central
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I trimmed the LR plastic retainer to allow it to fit up past the TT bar, it annoyed me as it was exactly as yours, couple of swift cuts with an angle grinder and a tidy up and all was good
20th Oct 2020 10:48 pm
Ceekay
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Location: Bury
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You could always deflate the tyre a little and carry a small compressor. I have had to do this but then again my spare is a 265/65R18 (and adblue) so even half deflated requires a little wedging. If wedged make sure as you lower it to get the spare out that you keep prising the wheel weight onto the winch or you may damage it if its lowered with no weight on it D4 HSE Lux MY16 Club Waitomo
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