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10th Sep 2016 7:37 pm
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Ah, missed the fixed bit.
10th Sep 2016 7:39 pm
disco305
Member Since: 01 Jan 2013
Location: brussels
Posts: 137
When I bought my D3 5 years ago the towbar was totally seized, replaced at the dealership with a new one.
The previous owner had it attached all the time. Therefore the failure of the removal.
Last winter I towed a 3000 kg trailer/ workmanship hut, rattled on the way out, but that was only in the trailers hitch joints, after they were tightened, no rattle or anything. Solid as a rock.
Always take mine off after use, and lubricate rear crossmember access and put in red protective bung after.
Never had any issues so far. During MOT they test the towbar, always passed.
If it is fitted the correct way and locks into position then I see no reason for it to Fail at any stage.
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19th Sep 2016 8:20 am
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Member Since: 14 Jun 2011
Location: Essex
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Have been towing 1900KG Sterling happily for 5 years maybe 6 times a year including abroad.....until recently when I noticed some 'give' after removing the Caravan.
Found that despite ensuring the detachable was rock solid before hitching up, when I un-hitched there was enough play to allow the green handle to turn about an eighth or so.
Took car for 'recall' at local $tealers who after 2 hours said all was fine.....and by the way - £1K would put all the other bits not working on my car right!!!
Not pleased with this, I videoed the play after unhitching and sent this to them asking them to write a letter to indemnify me if the thing came off.
Customer Services at Jaguar called pretty instantly and have offered to replace with the fixed tow bar (unsightly - but safe!) at no charge!!!
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19th Sep 2016 3:28 pm
Bergen
Member Since: 18 Oct 2016
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 5
daftlad wrote:
I contacted customer relations through the forum to check all outstanding recalls are done
apparently they are
then quized them in regard to occasionally towing with the detachable ball, not heard back
lol
I must have the only one left which they don't know about.
And so must a mate of mine.
And so must a bloke in the next village.
We all have detachable swan necks and they're all slack- we tow 3.5t 16ft trailers on a weekly basis but the receptionist at the dealer was unsure that there had ever been an issue!
May need to call LR directly with the VIN details?
Anyone got any advice to help short-circuit the process?
19th Oct 2016 10:56 pm
davess1402
Member Since: 07 Jul 2013
Location: Grampian
Posts: 175
Had our 08 replaced after checking recall situation, welded new cross member now have fixed tow bar, aesthetically it doesn't look that good but hey ho, if there was no issue they wouldn't change them .Growing up is optional, growing old is mandatory !
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20th Oct 2016 6:03 am
michael calvert
Member Since: 03 Dec 2011
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 519
Ocsid wrote:
With our 07 MY Disco 3 the hitch all but lived in the socket and I towed about 25 k miles, a 1900 kg caravan. This vehicle covered 51K miles in total. It rattled towing for over half its life which was dismissed "as they all do" until the "recall" when it was found worn, just within being suitable for the fixed towball to be fitted.
On buying my new D4 16.5 MY I had either to accept the factory detachable or make a big contribution to changing to the fixed. As I could accept the detachable and if it started to rattle still buy a fixed for no more than the dealer changing it pre delivery I opted to use the detachable. The claim is it was leaving it in that caused the wear, I struggle with that, but as soon as, and if I hear the very evident knocking it will be changed long before being critical. Towed some 1.2 k miles so far without a hint, and as soon as it is not needed it is stowed away so zero miles done with it fitted running solo.
Watch this space; the experts hopefully know what they are talking about.
If my D4 was not factory supplied I would have DIY fitted a fixed bar, but that was not an option without costing me.
Just had mine back for a check after my new (3month old) was rattling with a wide chipper on. They've said was fine but not for big stuff or regular use. I'm in a similar position in that the tow ball and storage was fit when bought so argued point and got them to pay 250 towards the extra over coat of a fixed bar. It's getting done on Thursday (half each) so there will be a detachable and storage fs soonD3 gone
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26th Oct 2016 7:48 am
Bergen
Member Since: 18 Oct 2016
Location: Cumbria
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Result - I tried Land Rover directly but they didn't recognise the VIN (told me that the vehicle didn't exist) and I couldn't make any sense of the person on the end of the phone so I called my local main deaer and not only did they recognise the VIN immediately but they have made all the arrangements to have the job done at zero cost.
It's in there today being sorted and the dealer also managed to persuade LR to supply a new detachable swan neck rather than the ugly fixed plate.
I only use the truck for occasional family transport duties and to tow our 20 ft speedboat and the family caravan for approx 2500 miles per annum and, because we live in the Lakes we need to take the swan neck off to enable us to get to visit at least three firends whose properties have challenging driveways.
The only caveat is that I have had to sign a disclaimer to exonerate LR as their advice is that the replacement be a fixed plate and not the removable hitch.
That begs the question of why they fit this detachable version to current vehicles knowing what the towing capabilities are and the likely use to which these very capable vehicles will be put by many of their owners. Thin ice maybe........?
26th Oct 2016 9:29 am
Ted Newman
Member Since: 09 Oct 2010
Location: SE London
Posts: 840
Just back from a two week trip around Wales - no problems towing our 1700kg Airstream.
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26th Oct 2016 10:00 am
Russell
Member Since: 23 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 10564
Bergen wrote:
Result - I tried Land Rover directly but they didn't recognise the VIN (told me that the vehicle didn't exist) and I couldn't make any sense of the person on the end of the phone so I called my local main deaer and not only did they recognise the VIN immediately but they have made all the arrangements to have the job done at zero cost.
It's in there today being sorted and the dealer also managed to persuade LR to supply a new detachable swan neck rather than the ugly fixed plate.
I only use the truck for occasional family transport duties and to tow our 20 ft speedboat and the family caravan for approx 2500 miles per annum and, because we live in the Lakes we need to take the swan neck off to enable us to get to visit at least three firends whose properties have challenging driveways.
The only caveat is that I have had to sign a disclaimer to exonerate LR as their advice is that the replacement be a fixed plate and not the removable hitch.
That begs the question of why they fit this detachable version to current vehicles knowing what the towing capabilities are and the likely use to which these very capable vehicles will be put by many of their owners. Thin ice maybe........?
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