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hummermaniac88
 


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If you look in the front wheels around the top, the tires would hit the so called "Ball joint" Not sure what you guys call this in GB. The stormer wheels have range rover offset, but I know that range rover wheels do infact fit...Would I need some spacers?
  
Post #2839398th Apr 2008 1:34 pm
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al cope
 


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Are you sure they hit, as 295/45x20's fitted on RRS 20" alloys dont (standard offset is 53mm). They look they are going to touch, but when the wheelnuts are tight, they do clear. Its very close (10mm), but they never get any closer, and this is still way more clearence than you get on most cars between the alloy and the brake caliper.

Al
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hummermaniac88
 


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Im quite sure, cause the grarage is our friends garage...So would a set of spacers solve this? Or would it be the tires becasue i ordered 285/50/20 ? Man im soo pooped out cause of this issue...
  
Post #2839568th Apr 2008 2:20 pm
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al cope
 


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Spacers would solve it, although I'm not sure I'd want to use spacers. I cant see how a 295/45 tyre clears, but a 285 doesnt, even at 50 profile, it should be taller and thinner. What tyre pressure is it, are they pumped up enough, or being allowed to squash out (although this should only be at the bottom)

Are the wheel definately 53mm offset?

Al
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Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
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Post #2839578th Apr 2008 2:29 pm
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Well they are the stormer wheels from the same factory as the genuine ones but they are deffected astheticaly only...So should have have range rover offset...The tires were pumped to the correct pressure. What spacer would solve this so I can go on the hunt for some...Thank you for all the help!
  
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Oh and whats the down side of spacers?
  
Post #2839598th Apr 2008 2:33 pm
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al cope
 


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Have a look at this tyre calculator

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

It shows a 285/50 tyre being slightly bigger than a 295/45, but slighty narrower. And, more importantly, when compared with a standard 255/55x19, its almost 4% bigger. Rule of thumb is no more than 2.5% different to standard. (a 295/45x20 is 1.36% bigger), so it sounds like you've got the wrong tyres anyway. And, what's the wieght rating on the 285's (111 or above required)

Al
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Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
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Post #2839608th Apr 2008 2:40 pm
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hummermaniac88
 


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yeah 112V...So I guess return the tires...Or get spacer and maybe fit...arg....Can you give me a suggestion?
  
Post #2839628th Apr 2008 2:47 pm
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al cope
 


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Fitting spacers moves the wheel center outwards, and puts more strain on wheel bearings, suspension parts, whereas the center line of the 20's is in the same place as the 18's or 19's, so I'd swop the tyres for some 275/45's or 295/45's, and this will put the sizing back closer to standard as well.

Al
 Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD 
 
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Thank you very much for all the help...I guess I get to pay 200$ for not doing my reasearch throughly and being gullable to salemans say...I guess I am safe to say, I made a mistake so you guys don't have to! Wink
  
Post #2839688th Apr 2008 3:23 pm
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al cope
 


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Are the tyres unused, will your tyre place not swop them for some of the size you want?

Al
 Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD 
 
Post #2839708th Apr 2008 3:26 pm
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Yeah they will swop no problem, but the thing is that i ordered online from tirerack....So I have to pay shipping and handling...
  
Post #2839728th Apr 2008 3:27 pm
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Oh and browsing throught your album, I found one of your picture showing exactly which part the tyre hits.

Click image to enlarge


The top of the long thing...
  
Post #2839758th Apr 2008 3:29 pm
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al cope
 


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well the tyre in that pic is a 295/45x20 General Grabber UHP (you can see the word General), so you can see that it clears.

Al
 Volvo XC90 B5 Plus Dark
Gone - MY18 D5 HSE - Corris on 22's with Black Pack
Now gone - MY16 D4 SE Tech, Loire Blue, Almond Leather, Privacy, plus some other goodies.
Old - MY12 D4 SDV6 XS Auto - Ipanema Sand with Almond Leather - Plus other niceties, and D4.com sticker
Older - D3 TDV6 XS Auto - Lugano Teal with Almond Leather, 20" Stormers, Shiny Tailpipes, DVD/TV - and obligatory D3 sticker
Ancient - D3 TDV6 S - Tonga with Ebony, 20" Stormers, satnav & DVD 
 
Post #2839818th Apr 2008 3:42 pm
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Alrighty, Im going to swap them and pay for my stupidity...ah well, never knew 45 and 50 makes such a big difference...Now im sure that 45 would fit!

Thank you so much Al, I really mean it! We need a thread on this forum saying which tyres would fitwith which wheel combo, would help future noobs...
  
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