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Invoice is in the dealership name and therefore its a trade sale.
22nd Jan 2021 12:09 am
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It’s a trade sale. If he thinks otherwise it’s fraud. Trading standards and HMRC will be very interested.
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22nd Jan 2021 12:54 am
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MrsMarsh wrote:
Oh and the horn is tooting every time I lock it now, so I'm assuming it's the bonnet latch.
I'm laughing or I'll cry!!
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22nd Jan 2021 1:08 am
Dimcandle
Member Since: 06 Feb 2020
Location: North Wales
Posts: 195
MrsMarsh wrote:
NJSS wrote:
You need professional advice but with a dealership address on the used car sale receipt the words "private sale" on the receipt may not help the dealer.
Bear in mind that a dealer pretending to be a private seller is committing a criminal offence.
NJSS
He said he wasn't trading from his business address due to Covid.
I spoke to him and he's not prepared to help me.
I'll get some advice tomorrow.
One for Trading Standards I think
Proffesional advice would be sensible but if I remember right under the sale of goods act he had sold you a vehicle unfit for purpose.
Make lots of noise, he has been dishonest
22nd Jan 2021 7:03 am
MrsMarsh
Member Since: 20 Jan 2021
Location: Medway
Posts: 109
Thanks all so much.
She has been quite good today, not a peep until the torrential rain. I am logged with LR customer service re the recall problem.
Going to blank off the EGR as she is quite smokey and sluggish
Sensors next to order. We've noticed this problem seems to happen in the wet. Got caught in a rain and hail storm today and the suspension error appeared. Didn't lower and bounce me about the place though. Woop woop!
22nd Jan 2021 9:39 pm
Journeyman
Member Since: 27 Sep 2020
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 252
I am astounded by this. In my opinion the vehicle is unfit for purpose and you should seek legal advice.
I thought mine was bad when I purchased from a dealer in September but nothing like this. Mine were all annoying but not cheap issues and didn’t make it unusable.
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22nd Jan 2021 9:45 pm
Truecarsales
Member Since: 26 Jan 2021
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 2
Hi everyone,
My name’s Jordan Stilp, the owner of True Car Sales.
This is a first for myself, as you can see I haven’t had any bad reviews they are all 5 star which are all legitimate and verified by AutoTrader.
The vehicle is a 2007 reg with over a 190,000 miles on the clock so issues may occur. The issues I knew about were raised at the point of sale. Despite the fact I do trade cars, this vehicle was actually my own private Land Rover that I’ve done many, many miles in and never had any problems.
It’s unfortunate that issues have occurred, therefore I have offered the customer a full refund and collection of the vehicle. This has been rejected by the customer.
I’ve never had to do this before, however, I felt the need to address this as the sale was nothing to do with my company and was a genuine private sale, so seeing my company name being tarnished was very disappointing.
This is all I’m going to say on the matter, however, if any of you do have any questions, feel free to message me direct.
Thank you.
Regards, Jordan.
27th Jan 2021 12:26 pm
Biffysun
Member Since: 09 Jul 2011
Location: Central
Posts: 1787
Two sides to every story - guys giving his version, full refund offered but rejected? That sounds reasonable to me
27th Jan 2021 12:32 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10363
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£4000 isn't a massive amount I guess for D3? even with high mileage
The owner would probably like to invest and fix the car.
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27th Jan 2021 12:57 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8097
Re: Suspension and brake issues - Only owned my D3 for a day!
[quote="MrsMarsh]
Drove it home last night from Silverstone to Kent. No problems. Well today... [/quote]
I thought the country is under lockdown?
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27th Jan 2021 2:12 pm
Beanwood
Member Since: 16 Oct 2016
Location: Nr Bristol
Posts: 58
Truecarsales wrote:
Despite the fact I do trade cars, this vehicle was actually my own private Land Rover that I’ve done many, many miles in and never had any problems.
...
I felt the need to address this as the sale was nothing to do with my company and was a genuine private sale, so seeing my company name being tarnished was very disappointing.
Hi Jordan,
I agree that problems are going to occur on 190k car - especially a D3.
The main problem I can see is you've written the receipt on your True Cars Sales company receipt pad, so it APPEARS to be trade, even if it isn't.
If you have offered a genuine full refund (Not less £x for incidentals or such like) then there doesn't appear to be a case to answer, beyond the expenses the purchaser has incurred (Car tax for the month which would not be reimbursed etc), which may be what decided her to keep it.?
27th Jan 2021 2:24 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10363
Yes the receipt does appear to be the problem.
Even if you just wanted a bit of paper to write a receipt on I could understand that.
However you have used both the company name and address rather than your home address.
27th Jan 2021 2:56 pm
MrsMarsh
Member Since: 20 Jan 2021
Location: Medway
Posts: 109
Yes I was offered a refund, because Mr Stilp received an anonymous message from someone on here stating that his company was being slated.
He points out that he told us the issues but also states that he never had any problems with it.
I am trying to get the brakes fixed through Landrover so that it is no cost to the trader as I believe morally, they should do it again due to the PO17 recall, I am waiting for their call today. So all I have asked, under my consumer rights is that we negotiate repair on the suspension? (The suspension that in the advert on FB and autotrader "all works as it should") I received an email at approx 18.30 last night stating that I need to tell Mr Stilp by 2pm today if I want to keep the car in it's current condition, or that he can pick the car up at his earliest convenience and refund it. Or if he doesn't hear anything he will assume I am keeping the car, sold as seen and all communications are resolved.
27th Jan 2021 3:19 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
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Is the car grey or black ?
27th Jan 2021 3:26 pm
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