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DiscoJacques
 


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Suspension - HELP PLEASE

Hi guys

My car is in now for the 5th time and 3 weeks. My motorplan expires at the end of March.

My problem:

1. Suspension (front right) start dropping immediately after switching can off.
2. After a while (Left front) adjusts to the dropping wheel.
3. Over night, the whole car adjusts to acees hight.
4. Error appears randomly "Suspension Fault", suspension fully adjustable still
5. Error is "Unrelated" according to LR
6. At the compressor, after switching off, the famous "disco fart" continues every minute untill the front is down
7. Leak test done (no problem)
8. When car is running, it's level, not sagging or dropping or uneven - Only when you switch off it starts. Over the weekend, SWAMBO went shopping, upon return (after an hour or so) the D3 did not drop Thumbs Up I got excited, but when I opened a door, the compressor/valve block started "farting" and within 10 minutes down to Access Hight


Replaced sofar by LR:

1. New battery (as they thuoght the voltage was a bit low)
2. New air springs (bellows)



According to them, if there is no error that relates to a specific part, they cannot diagnose Big Cry

They are trying however, but with no positive results. They have never seen such a problem.

Any suggestions/assistance/help/comments will be appreciated.
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Post #60361815th Feb 2010 7:35 am
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Baben
 


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Which dealer has the vehicle at present?

Maybe you should try another dealer - Midrand would be my suggestion. They have some very clued-up techies, and they are OK with taking input from enlightened customers like us Disco3.co.uk members.

It sounds to me like you have an issue with the valve responsible for the front right. We can confirm this with the faultmate perhaps, but right now I am on my way to barcelona.
Will be back Friday, then can happily spend some time with you diagnosing. I think you have my contact details?
  
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DiscoJacques
 


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Thanks Baben

It's at Bedfordview. I have your number, I am in Botswana from Friday to Sunday, we will make contact next week.

Is the Faultmate better/different to their IDS system? They cannot diagnose with IDS currently.
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Post #60362215th Feb 2010 7:59 am
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Baben
 


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I doubt Faultmate is as powerful as their IDS, but it is certainly easier to use. Plus I suspect this is a case of " Censored behind the knobs?
  
Post #60362315th Feb 2010 8:08 am
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DiscoJacques
 


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Sounds good, need to get to you either way next week for the 4x4 info screen for my other trip to Botswana in March.
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Post #60362715th Feb 2010 8:23 am
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Brucehun
 


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suspension fault

Jacques,is your disco white? saw 2 techies scratching heads at Bedfordview last week...
  
Post #60364615th Feb 2010 9:35 am
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Off Topic
Baben wrote:
but right now I am on my way to barcelona.

Baben - let me know if you fancy meeting up one day this week Whistle
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Post #60365515th Feb 2010 9:55 am
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DiscoJacques
 


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Hi Bruce

No, mine is Silver, but there is a good number of vehicles there since mine arraived 3 weeks ago Question Question Question

Makes one think, it seems that there is a lot of vehicles that have been drowned lately, probably takes some time dry it out.
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Post #60367715th Feb 2010 10:41 am
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heine
 


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PaulP wrote:
Off Topic
Baben wrote:
but right now I am on my way to barcelona.

Baben - let me know if you fancy meeting up one day this week Whistle


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Stay away Paul you don't want to go there Laughing
  
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hls
 


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DiscoJacques wrote:


It's at Bedfordview.


Therein lies the problem. I would strongly suggest that you do not use Bedfordview. I have only had poor service from them.
  
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DiscoJacques
 


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After replacing the airsprings, compressor, hight sensors and the pipes, the car still dropped on the front within minutes.

After asking again, what about the valve block, they quickly replaced the front and Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up , It is now sorted (touch wood) and have been for a couple of days.
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Post #60839423rd Feb 2010 6:54 am
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Baben
 


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Very good news Thumbs Up the valve block seems to be an obvious place to start, but hey, now you have a new suspension!



On the downside, these techies have now had their fingers in all over your car Big Cry


My faultmate is back, so come see me whenever you are ready
  
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Baben
 


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Paul and I never managed to hook up.
We were on opposite sides of Barcelona, and I had a full schedule including after-hours.
Next time I will make sure I have extra time Thumbs Up
  
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heine
 


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SO no need to practice safe sex then Twisted Evil
  
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Baben - any hint how to see with the faultmate that somethings wrong with the valves? Mine "overnight" dropping is intemittent and not so quick/bad as DiscoJacques's. No fault codes stored; the height sensors showing "reasonable" values; it seems to me that there might be some occasional valve sticking - but cannot explain to myself which one could it be - seem that fornt left is lowering itself first then the other side and back follows (over two nights).

Or the front left is elaking and the rest of the system tries to match it ? but this process would need ECU to operate even with the car asleep which I do not think is happening. And in order to get the air from the whole system ig the front left is leaking - it would mean that actually all the valves (front left , right cross axle and the rea ones) need to leak through ?!?
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