Member Since: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 155
I was surprised at how much shallower the boot aperture is on D5 compared with D4. Launch I attended also had a D4 in showroom so I measured it: From boot floor to top of opening, D5 is 13 (thirteen!) centimetres smaller than D4. I realise that all volume measurements on D5 are larger, but the height of the aperture is key for me. Looking at the two back-to-back, the D4 is clearly more practical in this respect.
Further, I found the 3rd row quite claustrophobic (although nothing wrong with legroom) and believe this is due to lower roof (and subsequent lower position of 3rd row seats, compared with stadium effect of D4) as well as chunky C pillar and tiny rear window.
4th Dec 2016 11:59 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Which volumes measurements are larger on the D5?2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
4th Dec 2016 12:09 pm
azure111s
Member Since: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 155
Certainly the length from inside tailgate ( with boot open, I should add!) to rear of central chubby box - that's a couple of cms longer.
LR claims volumes (either middle row up or down) are larger.LR history:
2016 D4 Landmark
2012 Defender 110 XS 2.4
2011 FFRR Vogue SE
2002 Defender 90 H/T Td5
2008 D3 XS TDV6
2006 D3 S TDV6
1996 D1 300 Tdi
Some overlaps involved & other marques interspersed!
4th Dec 2016 12:14 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
I have heard this said, but the volumes are in fact lower for the D5. On outright volume, it's lost 150 litres, although it looks like the loss should be greater.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
4th Dec 2016 12:34 pm
crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
The volumes on LR figures are only relevant to those of us who carry loose gas or liquids around! 2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
5th Dec 2016 7:11 am
Ja92mie
Member Since: 16 Sep 2014
Location: Newquay
Posts: 1259
philnanks wrote:
Ja92mie wrote:
I'll keep my eye out for your old one when it comes up on the market at Carrs!
Ja92mie...if youre interested in it, its a real nice one but as mentioned the egr fault code has come on a couple of times although its running fine now and not showing any faults. New disks/pads all round this time last year and new front tyres 6 months ago. Rears are on legal limit and due a service but that would be done by dealer anyway. Always been really well looked after....plus it'll have a brand new set of 20" alloys when they swap my ones over!
When are you picking your new one up?
5th Dec 2016 11:32 am
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
Red Merle wrote:
I have heard this said, but the volumes are in fact lower for the D5. On outright volume, it's lost 150 litres, although it looks like the loss should be greater.
I had all sorts of numbers thrown at me yesterday, no two ways about it when you compare the two in the metal the D5 has a lot less practical(usable) loadspace to the D4. The rear tailgate is so deep it makes up for many litres of the quoted space when closed.MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
5th Dec 2016 6:51 pm
crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
Makes me laugh when people claim the D5 is bigger than the D4. Bottom line is the equipment I need to carry fits easily into a D4 and doesn't into a D5 - I actually took my whole kit down to the dealers to check !
That was the end of it for me...
2005 D3 HSE 2011 D4 Landmark 2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
5th Dec 2016 8:34 pm
RDR
Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 2260
D5:
D4:
MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
MY12 HSE - Gone
MY16 HSE Luxury - Sold
MY20 D5 HSE - Sold
Current RR L460 PHEV
5th Dec 2016 8:37 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
Didn't Land Rover clearly state that there would be "no loss of practicality"? 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
5th Dec 2016 8:40 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 73086
They think the electric app based folding seats and event platform as practicality, we just see it as a waste of time that will go wrong.
5th Dec 2016 8:47 pm
Gareth Site Moderator
Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
Posts: 26775
Wendy just came back from launch event, and says for her, the electric seats were great. She really struggles with flattening the D4, I usually end up doing it for her. Some of the handles do take a fair bit of strength to operate.....
5th Dec 2016 8:58 pm
azure111s
Member Since: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 155
crews control wrote:
The volumes on LR figures are only relevant to those of us who carry loose gas or liquids around!
Definitely!
On back-to-back inspection the D4 cargo area appears infinitely more practical.LR history:
2016 D4 Landmark
2012 Defender 110 XS 2.4
2011 FFRR Vogue SE
2002 Defender 90 H/T Td5
2008 D3 XS TDV6
2006 D3 S TDV6
1996 D1 300 Tdi
Some overlaps involved & other marques interspersed!
7th Dec 2016 9:41 am
azure111s
Member Since: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 155
crews control wrote:
The volumes on LR figures are only relevant to those of us who carry loose gas or liquids around!
Definitely!
On back-to-back inspection the D4 cargo area appears infinitely more practical.LR history:
2016 D4 Landmark
2012 Defender 110 XS 2.4
2011 FFRR Vogue SE
2002 Defender 90 H/T Td5
2008 D3 XS TDV6
2006 D3 S TDV6
1996 D1 300 Tdi
Some overlaps involved & other marques interspersed!
7th Dec 2016 9:46 am
azure111s
Member Since: 20 Sep 2006
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 155
RDR wrote:
D5:
D4:
That 13cms height differential is ably demonstrated right there. Thanks! LR history:
2016 D4 Landmark
2012 Defender 110 XS 2.4
2011 FFRR Vogue SE
2002 Defender 90 H/T Td5
2008 D3 XS TDV6
2006 D3 S TDV6
1996 D1 300 Tdi
Some overlaps involved & other marques interspersed!
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