Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 1257
Costs not too great as we have seen with this version D5.
1st . Take front of range rover sport and apply.
2nd . Or lets take lunch break and just copy ford explorer with small mods ( rebadge )..
Can't be far out ?
17th Dec 2016 11:06 pm
jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
Come on fat bloke, surely you can do better than that!!
There must be something different that you can up with to mock it, we have had those before ( multiple times!! )
18th Dec 2016 9:00 am
petersw
Member Since: 17 Nov 2012
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 1135
Hehe jmbg
Perhaps. The same reason after 191 views of this video no one has commented?
Not sure if a spare wheel protector will be needed looking at this it looks tight to the body/winchMY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
RM, LFW, RP you love your D3's and D4's but Land Rover are after the mass market now.
DG wrote:
I'm confused given how many here have pure capitalist views and yet it seems that when it comes to the Land Rover making money this entirely secondary to protecting your rights to grow beards and wear fatigues
Re-read what I've written. Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped
Several Discovery 300 TDis
.....but more traditional models still sell and make money.
A basic spec D4 auto with say cloth seats (don't start about leather again!), satnav, black interior, including say load guard and optional off road bits like sump guard etc would be a surefire seller to ease the D5 transition and offer something practical pending the new Defender.
The Defender 2BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
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D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
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18th Dec 2016 3:58 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7441
I think that I've been quoted in error there!2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: 2 x FL2 as “second” cars 🙄
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
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18th Dec 2016 4:08 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23831
I'd have thought that they'd have been a case for continuing with the D4 for longer, but obviously LR didn't.
Whilst I've no doubt the D5 will be very popular, I do wonder about losing the USP of the D4. Namely, for want of better words, the macho/Tonka toy styling. It's been mentioned here by others already, but there's definitely a market for having something that still looks as if it's designed for a purpose. That the purchaser may never use it for such purposes is not the point. Divers watches and Swiss Army knives being a couple of examples.
With all SUV's looking pretty similar now, the D4 really stuck out. Judging by the number of new(ish) D4's that I see on the road, I'm assuming it's rugged styling still appeals.
Still, I've heard talk of a more off-road focused D5 being available in future, so that might fill the gap.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
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18th Dec 2016 5:52 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6270
The problem with the Discovery SVX will be its price.23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
18th Dec 2016 6:04 pm
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 14417
I went shooting today. There were many: Discovery 2, 3 and 4s, various Defenders, a series III, a Landcruiser, RRS2, a G Wagon and a few pickups. I know it wil cope well off road, but with dogs, guns and wellies etc I just can't see the D5 fitting in there and oddly no one else could either, including two chaps that have D5s on order.
The consensus was that LR have moved the brand to the city. No one disputed that they will sell loads, everyone felt that they have undermined the brand and what it stands for with the latest models. Other than off road capability, which is not essential for the town, the question was, what makes it different to the X5, Q7, XC90 and ML?
Anyway, the conversation was a distraction to a lousy day' shooting. Perhaps I should take up golf! D4 HSE EU6 (Known as Jeeves)
New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!) Sold
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
My apologies....BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
I went shooting today. There were many: Discovery 2, 3 and 4s, various Defenders, a series III, a Landcruiser, RRS2, a G Wagon and a few pickups. I know it wil cope well off road, but with dogs, guns and wellies etc I just can't see the D5 fitting in there and oddly no one else could either, including two chaps that have D5s on order.
The consensus was that LR have moved the brand to the city. No one disputed that they will sell loads, everyone felt that they have undermined the brand and what it stands for with the latest models. Other than off road capability, which is not essential for the town, the question was, what makes it different to the X5, Q7, XC90 and ML?
Anyway, the conversation was a distraction to a lousy day' shooting. Perhaps I should take up golf!
Get the CAR article on here....my A3 scanner isn't behaving but I will persist.....the article is to me a PR excercise to explain or somehow have an explanation in print.BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
18th Dec 2016 7:47 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
Posts: 13556
One thing to remember about LR's target market - it's international. Whilst there might be a few thousand of us who want a capable "countryside focussed" vehicle in the UK, there are many more city/"lifestyle" focussed customers around the world. Serving the small market is always going to be second place on the list of priorities, sadly.
I think that LR could/should be able to make an "off roader" again. It won't be a mass seller but that's fine. As someone else pointed out earlier, if you want to sell on your image of being a hugely capable vehicle, you need to keep that image alive. We all know that the D5 (as with L494 and L405) is hugely capable off road. No doubts there. But none of them project it. They are the Magnificent Seven rather than the Seven Samurai. The former appeals to the mass audience but the latter is the original and far better (even with subtitles).
I really, really, really hope that the "all new Defender" will be a proper 4x4, not a lifestyle vehicle. It will then help support the brand. What worries me is that there is a healthy market for people to make Defenders more road capable. Lots of bling, lowered suspension, big shiny wheels with low ratio rubber, expensive interiors. I fear that LR will see this as the market for Defender's replacement.
I think that LR's long term plan is to have three branches to the family tree:
1. FFRR / RRS / Evoque
2. Discovery / Discovery Sport
3. Defender family
I just hope the Defender family is more this
and less this
One thing to bear in mind in all thoughts about LR these days - they see themselves as makers of "premium 4x4 vehicles and luxury SUVs". The words "premium" and "luxury" tell us all we need to know...Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
2012 RRS SDV6
2008 RRS TDV8
"When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die! You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they were always going to have to do from the very beginning: SIT DOWN AND TALK!"
18th Dec 2016 8:05 pm
Robse
Member Since: 10 Jun 2014
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 498
Moo wrote:
I went shooting today. There were many: Discovery 2, 3 and 4s, various Defenders, a series III, a Landcruiser, RRS2, a G Wagon and a few pickups. I know it wil cope well off road, but with dogs, guns and wellies etc I just can't see the D5 fitting in there and oddly no one else could either, including two chaps that have D5s on order.
The consensus was that LR have moved the brand to the city. No one disputed that they will sell loads, everyone felt that they have undermined the brand and what it stands for with the latest models. Other than off road capability, which is not essential for the town, the question was, what makes it different to the X5, Q7, XC90 and ML?
Anyway, the conversation was a distraction to a lousy day' shooting. Perhaps I should take up golf!
Shooting on a Sunday ?!Velar MY18 D180 S Narvik
Discovery MY2015 3.0 SDV6 SE Corris - Gone
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Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
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